This is Pure False Advertising

[tkitch]

21 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Citation needed...IME HP hasn't made a good product in decades, and the good stuff they did make (scientific instruments, their scientific calculators) they spun off to concentrate on the bottom of the barrel consumer crap.

 

HP Enterprise makes a number of good products.  
(Also some trash:  See the 12900k small workstation that throttles to hell in 30 seconds, LTT covered ages ago.)

 

HP Consumer?  pretty meh tier overall.

[asdf2345]

The G413 recommendation is garbage. I owned one and after a few years, multiple keys required me to either slam them down to get them to work and/or they double, triple, or even quadruple press. Also the RomerG stem is awful, keys love to pop out even if you attempt to glue them on, and parts of the stem (on the key cap side) like to break and get stuck inside the keyboard. Been using a HyperX Alloy Elite 2 for close to 2 years now, and aside from the software (which you can replace with OpenRGB anyways) it's been a great keyboard. Normal design so I can replace any keycap with any cheap set, the stem design also makes it so breaking a stem or key cap would be user error and not a design flaw. and if a key breaks I don't need to source some wack key switch to have the same cap fit.

[Orangeator]

Shame on HP for the marketing on this keyboard. They should know better. It's tactics like this that makes me not purchase from HP.

[manikyath]

4 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Citation needed...IME HP hasn't made a good product in decades, and the good stuff they did make (scientific instruments, their scientific calculators) they spun off to concentrate on the bottom of the barrel consumer crap.

 

EliteBooks are great business devices. they are versatile, repairable, and can withstand a LOT of beating.

pretty much the entire pro/elitedesk series is the backbone of the business world.

the Z series stuff is pretty much *the* option if you need high end workstations, but cant rely on a skilled individual (actually huge problem..) to build and maintain them.

and while i'm aware it's an unpopular opinion.. HP's inkjet printers are -from the consumer level inkjet printers i've experienced- the best print quality you can get.

 

but yes, it defenately is a matter of finding the gems in a steaming pile of consumer manure.

and the fact their printer setup process has become so dense you need a specialist to steer you around the nonsense... doesnt help.

 

and yes.. HP does not understand consumers at all.. they should drop pavilion like a brick and focus on business and premium stuff.

[Rarity]

probably buying some off brand keyboard and sticking the HP logo .. 

[Radium_Angel]

7 hours ago, manikyath said:

should drop pavilion like a brick and focus on business and premium stuff.

I feel they are still racing for the bottom market, even though that area died off years ago.

 

[starsmine]

19 hours ago, Brian McKee said:

How do I respond to something when you're so clearly wrong? They mentioned 10KRO can hit up to 10 which is incorrect it's minimum. And they mentioned as a comparison that NKRO can hit at least 6 which is also wrong as NKRO is the ability to activate all keys at once.

 

A 2KRO keyboard can hit 8 or more keys at once, the only thing it guarantees is at least 2. The IBM model M for example is a 2KRO keyboard but can hit well above that, it just depends on which keys you hit within the matrix.

 

So no, nothing they said regarding rollover was accurate. It was about as wrong as they could have possibly been. Outside of the fact that the keyboard they reviewed was indeed not 10KRO. Pointing out that the writer of this video is wrong is not being salty.

I am so lost to what you are arguing

Nothing said in the video was incorrect in terms of KRO

They said HP was wrong for using the phrasing 10KRO in their marketing. They also said the correct definition of 10KRO in the video, saying "up to 10" means you can hit up to 10 before certain key combinations no longer work. The video was COMPLETLY correct in their phrasing. 
 

 

14 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Citation needed...IME HP hasn't made a good product in decades, and the good stuff they did make (scientific instruments, their scientific calculators) they spun off to concentrate on the bottom of the barrel consumer crap.

 

All my HP laptops? They are easy to work on, HP gives you the full service manual giving you all the documentation to take apart and part numbers for every part that you can use at the HP parts store to replace parts with OEM parts or use that part number to go on ebay. 

Im not buying top specced laptops, I buy sub 1k envys 

[manikyath]

4 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

I feel they are still racing for the bottom market, even though that area died off years ago.

 

yep. that's HP for you.

[LMGcommunity]

On 4/16/2023 at 11:42 AM, Brian McKee said:

This video was pretty bad for many reasons. Main thing that got me was how incorrect the writers for this video were about 10 key rollover. 10 Key rollover is supposed to be 10 keys MINIMUM. NKey rollover on the other hand would allow you to press all keys on the keyboard at the same time; not the 6 keys minimum that was suggested in the video.

 

The HP keyboard is actually 2 key rollover, like your average keyboard with no diodes and with an optimized matrix can be just fine like with older logitech boards (though that doesn't take away from the false advertising). Can you guys at least double check what you write before posting it?

 

This is pretty basic stuff.

We'll note the feedback you've added here for future videos, thanks!