Any word about any Ryzen 3 CPUs for AM5?

[Commodore256]

What I historically liked about the most about AMD platforms is you could get the cheapest piece of crap CPU just to get started and on the same platform you can get something higher end. You used to be able to go from a single core Semperon to a Phenom II x6.


My gaming needs are currently minimalist and I can live with a quad core with an iGPU for 1080p gaming. Hell, my gaming "monitor" is 1024x768, but that's just me playing on a SD CRT via a scan converter to add an anti-aliasing effect. It would also be nice to get a new CPU that supports AVX so I can watch TV on my TV, can't even watch SD TV shows on non-bootleg streaming sites, they require a lot more overhead

[Jurrunio]

Now it's Intel offering this perk, AMD makes you stay on last gen and the previous socket

[PDifolco]

12 minutes ago, Commodore256 said:

What I historically liked about the most about AMD platforms is you could get the cheapest piece of crap CPU just to get started and on the same platform you can get something higher end. You used to be able to go from a single core Semperon to a Phenom II x6.


My gaming needs are currently minimalist and I can live with a quad core with an iGPU for 1080p gaming. Hell, my gaming "monitor" is 1024x768, but that's just me playing on a SD CRT via a scan converter to add an anti-aliasing effect. It would also be nice to get a new CPU that supports AVX so I can watch TV on my TV, can't even watch SD TV shows on non-bootleg streaming sites, they require a lot more overhead

AMD is still launching hi end stuff, they do like Intel now

I suppose they will launch lower end later like they did with 5000, tho it was budget R5 no R3 anymore

[Commodore256]

I wouldn't say Intel is offering this perk, Intel doesn't do long term support socket types. Intel historically only had boards for like one generation. I think they're doing two gens, but AMD is doing like 5.

[CommanderAlex]

8 minutes ago, Commodore256 said:

I wouldn't say Intel is offering this perk, Intel doesn't do long term support socket types. Intel historically only had boards for like one generation. I think they're doing two gens, but AMD is doing like 5.

To me, socket generations don't matter and if you upgrade your CPU every 4-5 years, just does not make much sense to me to still use the same motherboard. Intel has always done 2 generations per socket.

[mariushm]

Sounds like a 5600G would be perfect for your needs. It's not that expensive and can work even on a A520 or a B450 motherboard.

[Commodore256]

I see it this way, AM5 has about 4 more years in the platform, in about 5 years, I could get a Ryzen 7 X3D cheap and in another 5 years, I could get the fastest Ryzen 9 X3D ever made for that platform cheap because it would be 2 socket types behind.

[Lurking]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Now it's Intel offering this perk, AMD makes you stay on last gen and the previous socket

Intel kind of is last generation like AM4 since their current platform also won't survive the future. 

 

OP: been wondering the same and a 4-core AM5 may be close in performance to 6-core AM4. But before A620 is released and that actually makes MB cheaper, and DDR5 comes down a bit, AM5 likely doesn't make sense for people needing less performance. And if yield is high, they aren't forced to disable cores and sell as lower core CPUs. I bet we see lower level AM5 once all the high level stuff is rolled out. And what you suggest with buying low now and upgrading later makes sense - but only to us 0.01% of the market 

 

Past 10 years I built 3 Intel sytems and never could upgrade at the time I felt the need (2-4 years later) and ended up with a new MB anyway. But really, after 4 years you also have faster RAM, new MB features and so on. So upgrading only the CPU likely is just an overrated illusion anyway. Especially if you can use or sell the old platform. 

[Commodore256]

I guess even if they have to disable half of a 8-core Chiplet instead of selling one cheap CPU with 4 cores they sell a 8+4 as another 12-core SKU for more money.

They probably have a 6+6 and a 8+4 for their 12-core SKUs.

[Lurking]

7 hours ago, Commodore256 said:

I guess even if they have to disable half of a 8-core Chiplet instead of selling one cheap CPU with 4 cores they sell a 8+4 as another 12-core SKU for more money.

They probably have a 6+6 and a 8+4 for their 12-core SKUs.

Yeah, with the chiplets they can reuse more. And TSMC likely have the process figured out to not have too much waste.

 

Keeping AM4 with DDR4 as lower level isn't bad. It helps users that want to upgrade etc.and the factory lines for Chipsets, RAM, MB, etc likely are cheap. I'm about to build an iGPU system for the Office and can't really justify almost $200 premium from AM4 6-core to AM5 6-core. Sure, the R 7600 is MUCH more formidable, but I don't need the power. 6 years ago I bought top of the line i7-7700K, now I'm waiting to buy the very bottom and that is way more than I really need.