Uses for VERY old GPU?

[BM Code]

3 minutes ago, X-System said:

minimum 500 MHz but high is better.

 

Pentium III SLOT 1 exists between 450 and 600 MHz

 

Pentium III socket 370 exists up to 1.4 GHz (the best is 1.4 GHz Tualatin version)

Can I make the system with pc part picker or is it to old?

[X-System]

2 minutes ago, BM Code said:

Can I make the system with pc part picker or is it to old?

I check and PC Part Picker doesn't have old models.

[BM Code]

3 minutes ago, X-System said:

I check and PC Part Picker doesn't have old models.

do you know of any builds I could follow or get an idea of what to do, like video or smth?

[X-System]

11 minutes ago, BM Code said:

do you know of any builds I could follow or get an idea of what to do, like video or smth?

The best is to ask the members in this forum for build retrogaming

 

For RAM, SDRAM PC100 for Pentium III SLOT1 / SDRAM PC133 for Pentium III s370 Tualatin. Take 512MB (2x 256MB, Windows 98 doesn't support well more than 512MB, I tried with 1GB, it crashs random)

 

For sound card, Creative Sound Blaster Live! PCI

 

For storage, uses old hard disk drive Parallel ATA (IDE), 20GB is enough.

 

And a CD/DVD-ROM IDE

 

For power supply, find a old 250/300 watts ATX 20-pin with molex.

[BM Code]

3 minutes ago, X-System said:

The best is to ask the members in this forum for build retrogaming

 

For RAM, SDRAM PC100 for Pentium III SLOT1 / SDRAM PC133 for Pentium III s370 Tualatin. Take 512MB (2x 256MB, Windows 98 doesn't support well more than 512MB, I tried with 1GB, it crashs random)

 

For sound card, Creative Sound Blaster Live! PCI

 

For storage, uses old hard disk drive Parallel ATA (IDE), 20GB is enough.

 

And a CD/DVD-ROM

 

For power supply, find a old 250/300 watts ATX 20-pin with molex.

sweet, thanks.

[Beerzerker]

Socket A is probrably your best bet for something useable with those.

Most boards for it can be found easily and the chips aren't hard to come by either - Nor is the RAM since it's DDR in most cases with socket A.
SDRAM is the other RAM type they could have and that applies mostly to older boards of that socket.

Example:
An Asus A7N8X variant is a very common board to find, it's good with the NF2 chipset, AGP slot for AGP slotted cards and so on, works great with anything at least from Win 95 and newer, it even does well with XP if you want. I'd suggest getting an A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 or the A7N8X Deluxe-E, both of those are good and will even overclock if you want to combined with a good Barton core chip such as an XP-3200+ or a Mobile (XP-M) Barton core chip.

The previous suggestions are good too.

[X-System]

29 minutes ago, BM Code said:

sweet, thanks.

I forgot a detail. You must have PS/2 keyboard for these old motherboards Pentium III.

 

You can also have an USB keyboard with PS/2 adapter like this.

 

[X-System]

Oh I forgot an other detail : floppy drive ! You need a boot disk with CD drivers to install Windows 98

[Beerzerker]

7 hours ago, X-System said:

Oh I forgot an other detail : floppy drive ! You need a boot disk with CD drivers to install Windows 98

Need a floppy for most any Win version before XP itself, definitely for all 9x Win versions such as Win 95, 98/98SE and ME.

[OddOod]

Target practice
Though I agree with others in this thread that keeping around some utter trash tier GPUs for backup is not a bad idea. I just had to deploy my Geforce 8400GS card (which has S-Video out lol) when building a server because it refused to boot headless.

 

[MasterDeeJay]

I have use a few old cards for my benchmark project.

I like old glide games but i dont want to use emulation so i used an agp-to-pci to pcie adapter.

It is in a chinese x99 mobo, 2686v3 ES 18 core unlocked at 3,6ghz so i think there is no cpu bottleneck

 

Glide also works because there is a working driver for win7

 

I used another rig for testing.

 

Geforce2 GTS:

 

 

 

Geforce2 MX

 

 

I have a lot of old hardware but i dont have time to test it all.

 

 

[mariushm]

Nice pictures. 

 

You do have limitations.  Your pci-e to PCI adapter will give the pci slot a maximum of 133 MB/s.  The pci to AGP will add some extra latency... 

 

Natively, AGP 8x can do up to around 2 GB/s  or equivalent to a pci-e 2.0 x4 slot 

[Beerzerker]

16 hours ago, Caroline said:

They can be installed without the diskette and just the CD drive, not sure about 95 but 98 and 2000 definitely can. ME is a disgrace so I've never tried installing it.

 

I'll have to try that one day, TBH I always did it with a floppy so that's why I said that.
I cannot recall ever doing an install with just the disc with those Win versions.
ME isn't bad to install, it's actually one of the easiest to do.

[HardStroke]

I suppose you can use it as a door stop

Or wait 10 years and sell them as "pieces of GPU history" - that is if you CAN find someone who will be crazy enough to buy something like that

[Beerzerker]

Just now, HardStroke said:

I suppose you can use it as a door stop

Or wait 10 years and sell them as "pieces of GPU history" - that is if you CAN find someone who will be crazy enough to buy something like that

You'd be suprised at who would want them.
Of course they aren't suitable for any modern useage but for example, the Nostalgic hardware club guys over at TPU would be all over these.

[HardStroke]

Just now, Beerzerker said:

You'd be suprised at who would want them.
Of course they aren't suitable for any modern useage but for example, the Nostalgic hardware club guys over at TPU would be all over these.

It really depends on the gpu

I saw that he posted some asus gpu from 2002

Pretty sure he will be able to sell it quick

But if he has gpus from the last 10 years, maybe they wont be as desired as the older ones

[MasterDeeJay]

38 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Nice pictures. 

 

You do have limitations.  Your pci-e to PCI adapter will give the pci slot a maximum of 133 MB/s.  The pci to AGP will add some extra latency... 

 

Natively, AGP 8x can do up to around 2 GB/s  or equivalent to a pci-e 2.0 x4 slot 

Voodoo3 not even a real AGP card, not using AGP features. Yes there is a limitation but not much for the old games.

For the Geforce2 gts yes it is slower with pci mode.

 

I use a Core2 Asrock board for faster AGP cards. But it not support old AGP cards just newer 4x-8x.

I dont know why it is not support wolfdale E8xxx series cpu but it works with E5xxx , and very limited OC