Jump to content

2.5" SSD PCIe Expansion Card Thoughts & Suggestions?

CrankyMeatball

I'm looking into moving my two 2.5" SSDs off of cables and instead onto a PCIe expansion card/s. Why? Because I want to. πŸ˜…

Β 

I've already done some research, and so far I have narrowed down what I have found to these four options:

  1. Sonnet Tempo (https://www.amazon.com/Sonnet-Technologies-Tempo-Drives-TSATA6-SSD-E2/dp/B0096P62G6)
  2. Sonnet Fusion (https://www.amazon.com/Sonnet-Fusion-Dual-2-5-inch-RAID/dp/B084294HF9)
  3. Sedna Dual SSD Adapter (https://www.amazon.com/Sedna-Express-Extended-Connector-Included/dp/B07L5SPWNV)
  4. OWC AccelsiorΒ (https://www.amazon.com/OWC-Accelsior-PCIe-Adapter-Drives/dp/B00WUZPMHE)

Ultimately if I go through with this:

  1. I don't want totally gimp my SSDs. Sure I'm using this for a home PC where realistically I hardly ever, if ever, use the full capabilities of the SSDs, but it still matters to me.
  2. I don't want to pay too much.

So based off of my understanding of the cards, SATA III, and PCIe, I've come up with this comparison:

image.thumb.png.dcb583c6c2d9dc233def1b787133850f.png

(I usedΒ 600 MB/s as the max theoretical bandwidth of SATA III)

Β 

My conclusion from the comparison is:

  • Sonnet Tempo is the best single slot solution for cost.
  • The Sonnet Fusion is the best single slot solution for performance, while beingΒ the most expensive (though its $/bandwidth is actually pretty great).
  • The Sedna Dual SSD Adapter is a goodΒ choice if I'm not worried about performance when using both cards at once.
  • The OWC Accelsior is a great deal, but only if I'm ok with using two slots.

So, my questions for this thread are:

  1. Did I correctly understand SATA III, PCIe, and the cards/are there any errors in my comparison?
  2. What would others do in my shoes? Get one of these four (and if so which one?), or is there some better product out there I didn't find?

Β 

Thanks!

Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β 
Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β  Β Β Β Β Β Β  0.05

Β 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, CrankyMeatball said:

What would others do in my shoes?

Not do this.

Β 

Have you checked if any support booting? (I'm assuming you're booting from at least one of those drives) Getting arbitrary PCIe cards to boot can be a royal pain.Β 

Main System (Byarlant):Β Ryzen 7 5800X | Asus B550-Creator ProArt | EK 240mm Basic AIO |Β 16GB G.Skill DDR4 3200MT/s CAS-14 | XFX Speedster SWFT 210 RX 6600 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB / Samsung 960 PRO 512GB / 4Γ— Crucial MX500 2TB (RAID-0) | Corsair RM750X | Mellanox ConnectX-3 10G NIC | Inateck USB 3.0 CardΒ | Hyte Y60 Case | Dell U3415W Monitor | Keychron K4 Brown (white backlight)

Β 

Laptop (Narrative):Β Lenovo Flex 5Β 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB RAM (soldered) | Vega 6 Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TBΒ NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi (all-around awesome machine)

Β 

Proxmox Server (Veda):Β Ryzen 7 3800XT | AsRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 64GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 4x 10TB WD Whites / 4x 14TB Seagate Exos / 2Γ— Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD |Β Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W |Β Intel X540-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9207-8i HBAΒ | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives) | VMs: TrueNAS Scale; Ubuntu Server (PiHole/PiVPN/NGINX?); Windows 10 Pro; Ubuntu Server (Apache/MySQL)


Media Center/Video CaptureΒ (Jesta Cannon):Β Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S |Β 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s CAS-22 | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB / Seagate 1.5TB HDDΒ | Corsair CX450M |Β Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | LG UH12NS30 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

Β 

Camera: Sony Ι‘7II w/ Meike Grip | Sony SEL24240Β | Samyang 35mm Ζ’/2.8 | Sony SEL50F18FΒ | Sony SEL2870 (kit lens) | PNY Elite Perfomance 512GB SDXC card

Β 

Network:

Spoiler
                           β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€ Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
β•‘ β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€ Closet ──────┐   β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€ Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
β•šβ• UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╀═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 β”‚                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         β”‚                        β•šβ• Jesta Cannon*
                         β”‚ β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€ Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                β”œβ”€ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      β”œβ”€ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       β”œβ”€ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

Β 

Retired/Other:

Spoiler

Laptop (Rozen-Zulu):Β Sony VAIO VPCF13WFX | Core i7-740QM | 8GB Patriot DDR3 | GTΒ 425M | Samsung 850EVO 250GB SSD | Blu-ray Drive | Intel 7260 Wifi (lived a good life, retired with honor)

Testbed/Old DesktopΒ (Kshatriya):Β Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz |Β ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | Osprey 230 Video Capture | NZXT H230 Case

TrueNAS Server (La Vie en Rose):Β Xeon E3-1241v3 | Supermicro X10SLL-F | Corsair H60 | 32GB Micron DDR3L ECC 1600MHz | 1x Kingston 16GB SSD / Crucial MX500 500GB

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

Not do this.

Β 

I almost choked 🀣.

Β 

Β 

RELOAD BEFOR QUOTING. I EDIT MY POST ALOT!

MARK MY POST AS THE ANSWER IF I HELPED.

Β 

CPU:Β AMD Ryzen 5 5600Β |Β GPU:Β RTX 2070 SuperΒ |Β Mobo: MSI X470 Gaming ProΒ |Β RAM: Corsair vengeance 32GB 8x2 3200mhz CL16Β |Β SSD: Samsung QVO 870 1TBΒ |Β PSU: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 750 Gold 750 W 80+ GoldΒ |Β Cooler: Thermaltake Contac Silent

12Β |Β OS:Β Windows 11 Pro | Pcpartpicker:Β https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGR6gb
Displays: ViewSonic XG2401 23.6" 1920 x 1080 144 HzΒ 

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad Gaming i5-1130 RTX3050 16GBΒ | OS: Windows 11 Pro

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

Have you checked if any support booting? (I'm assuming you're booting from at least one of those drives) Getting arbitrary PCIe cards to boot can be a royal pain.Β 

I have a separate NVME boot drive. So supporting booting is not a concern.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

20 minutes ago, candle86 said:

What advantage are you hoping to gain, the controller will remain SATA each drive will remain capped at the SATA III Transfer rates, thats in the controller, you can get an increase in speed via Raid 0.

2 hours ago, AbydosOne said:

Not do this.

Β 

Have you checked if any support booting? (I'm assuming you're booting from at least one of those drives) Getting arbitrary PCIe cards to boot can be a royal pain.Β 

Β 

There are only a few reasons to use a standalone PCIe card for SATA drives.

Β 

You need more SATA ports than your board supports

Your Board supports an older SATA Standard and you want to upgrade to SATA III, this isn't relevant since P67 which only had 2 SATA III ports

Your SATA ports are in some way damaged or the board is malfunctioning

Β 

Outside of that you gain nothing

Β 

I'm not hoping to gain any speed or performance advantage. If anything, I'm fully aware that doing this will likely result in less performance for these SSDs.

Β 

If you're genuinely curious about why I want to do this, I guess the reasoning would be the following. Ever since I built this PC (my first!) I've never been a fan of the cabling required for my 2.5" SSDs. The connectors feel flimsy and prone to breaking. I find it annoying that I needed two cables per drive. I also found it annoying that the cables I'm using (included with my motherboard and PSU) are way too long for what I need and have more connectors on them than I need.

Β 

Is that all relatively silly and more subjective than objective? Yes.

Β 

Are there other solutions to these annoyances? Yes, I could:

  • Get different cables, with custom length and only the number of connectors I need (only a partial solution in my opinion)
  • Get a motherboard with more than one m.2 slot and then buy more m.2 drives
  • Get a m.2 PCIe expansion card and thenΒ buy more m.2 drives

All of those still cost money though, epecially the second option. And ultimately, I do have data on my two 2.5" SSDs, and I continue to have more data over time, so why chuck them or sell them if there's a not totally awful solution to my current issues with them that won't break the bank.

Β 

Perhaps you have an additional idea for me that could help with the silly annoyances I feel towards how I'm currently using these drives. If you do, I'm more than happy to listen, learn, and evaluate. Otherwise, any help on figuring out which card to choose or double checking my evaluations of the cards would also be helpful. 😊

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Γ—