First build looking for reassurance and rec. (need mouse and keyboard suggestion)

[acm2002]

Budget (including currency): $1000 or so 

Country: united states

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: nothing too crazy, I want to play a few games and be able to try new games in the future. No VR games. The most intense being valiant, minecraft, rust. I will be doing school work on this PC and possible run CAD if possible but school wise mostly just word, excel, web browser and such. I am an Engineering tech major but I have access to their PCs if my computer can't run the programs we use. Only one monitor for now. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

As the pieces are showing up and I'm waiting to pick some up I'm not sure about all their compatibility. I can return and replace pieces if it is thought to be for the best so let me know what you think.

case: NZXT - H210i Mini ITX Tower Case - Matte White

cpu: Intel Core i5-12600KF Desktop Processor 10

gpu: PowerColor Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT Graphics Card with 8GB GDDR6 Memory

Mother board: GIGABYTE B660M DS3H DDR4 

Ram:Gloway Ram 16GB 2666MHz (PC4-21300) CL19 1.2V

Power S:ASUS ROG Thor 850 Certified 850W platinum +

Monitor: Dell - 24" VA LED FHD Curved Gaming Monitor 

CPU cooler: NZXT - Kraken X63 280mm RGB All-in-one Liquid CPU Cooler

SSD: Intel 670p Series M.2 2280 512GB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 QLC Internal Solid State Drive 

Keyboard: I know i like the sound and click of kkt switches, I want a somewhat quiet click. I'd prefer to not spend alot on a keyboard and already built is better. Does not need to be a gaming keyboard but full keyboard is a must. 

mouse: don't really care but don't want it to be RGB or look crazy. 

FANS: plan on getting a pack of 3 corsair fans to replace stock fans and honestly just in case the pc is getting hot. 

 

Now, will this all fit in my mini case... IDK hopefully but I haven't seen the case in person yet. 

but how is it looking, my PC isn't gonna blow up or over heat right?! lmao. I know the ram is probably the most questionable as its the part I didn't really research. 

 

please let me know your opinions and I'll probably make more posts when I'm starting to assemble.  

[Dedayog]

Without a budget, we can't help you.  Without a resolution to shoot for, we have trouble helping you.

 

You're in school.  Show your work.  Give more information.

 

Do you really just say "build me a PC" and expect it to just happen?

[acm2002]

24 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Without a budget, we can't help you.  Without a resolution to shoot for, we have trouble helping you.

 

You're in school.  Show your work.  Give more information.

 

Do you really just say "build me a PC" and expect it to just happen?

Sorry I posted it before I was done typing on accident!

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, acm2002 said:

Sorry I posted it before I was done typing on accident!

No problem, it happens.  As well as people coming and just saying BUILD ME SOME SHIT! 

 

Without knowing the prices you are paying, it's hard to say if your build is a good deal.  There are some issues with it off the top though...

 

RAM is too slow, get 3200MHz or 3600MHz.

 

PSU is WAY too much.  Too expensive and too much wattage, unless upgrading soon.  Go with 650w.

 

You can save money on that PSU and AIO, and move up to a 6700xt. 

 

Will post a pcpartpicker in a little bit after work.

[acm2002]

5 hours ago, Dedayog said:

No problem, it happens.  As well as people coming and just saying BUILD ME SOME SHIT! 

 

Without knowing the prices you are paying, it's hard to say if your build is a good deal.  There are some issues with it off the top though...

 

RAM is too slow, get 3200MHz or 3600MHz.

 

PSU is WAY too much.  Too expensive and too much wattage, unless upgrading soon.  Go with 650w.

 

You can save money on that PSU and AIO, and move up to a 6700xt. 

 

Will post a pcpartpicker in a little bit after work.

Yes, I originally had a 650w power supply from a random place on amazon on my list but after watching videos I got scared about having low wattage, so I wanted to get a 750 from a good brand with bronze or gold+. A few I added to my shopping list kept going out of stock and ended up scoring an 850w platinum for $110 us dollars. I figure it can't hurt to have more than I need? I think, honestly, I have basically no knowledge of this stuff so if it is bad to have too much then I will be switching to your recommendation, I didn't put the prices I got them for, I should have.

 

On the ram, I'm not sure how to tell the speed in the specs  Is the text under your post ram options? Honestly, whatever you recommend I want to get, preferably not over $80 US if it's possible. If it is not too much to ask, a direct link would be great, I don't want to accidentally get the wrong one lol! not sure why out of all the parts RAM confuses me the most. 

 

Can my CPU handle a 6700xt ?

 

 

Lastly, I'm really wondering if my motherboard will support all the other parts? I really wish I was more knowledgeable, I'm sorry if I sound slow or am asking the wrong thing. 

[Dedayog]

No apologies.  The fact you WANT to learn is apparent.   Good stuff.

 

850w is a lot for you but there is no harm In it.  Great price too.  Will be good if you upgrade later.

 

CPU is more than enough.  Infact it will be fine for any gpu you may upgrade to later as well.

 

Ram spord is the Mhz.  Yours is 2666.  Mine is 3200.  Others run 3600mhz.  Mhz is million Hertz.  Or a million times per second.  CL is Cas Latency, or rather how long it takes the ram to react to a request I think.  19 is slow.  Mine is 16.  

 

So you have slow ram that reacts slow. Double bad .

 

See if you can find 3200mhz cl16 or 3600mhz cl18.  The speed increase offsets the latency increase.

 

It's a good build but use PCPartPicker.com to build a list.  It helps with compatibility and pricing.

 

Really tho, if you get better ram like mentioned you'd be in pretty good shape.   Maybe upgrade to a 6700xt if you can swing it.

 

Others will chime in with builds in your budget too.

 

@RONOTHAN##

 

@Fasauceome

[Dedayog]

Also, that motherboard won't fit in that case I don't think, since it's a mini itx.

 

You need an atx case or a matx motherboard.

[acm2002]

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

No apologies.  The fact you WANT to learn is apparent.   Good stuff.

 

850w is a lot for you but there is no harm In it.  Great price too.  Will be good if you upgrade later.

 

CPU is more than enough.  Infact it will be fine for any gpu you may upgrade to later as well.

 

Ram spord is the Mhz.  Yours is 2666.  Mine is 3200.  Others run 3600mhz.  Mhz is million Hertz.  Or a million times per second.  CL is Cas Latency, or rather how long it takes the ram to react to a request I think.  19 is slow.  Mine is 16.  

 

So you have slow ram that reacts slow. Double bad .

 

See if you can find 3200mhz cl16 or 3600mhz cl18.  The speed increase offsets the latency increase.

 

It's a good build but use PCPartPicker.com to build a list.  It helps with compatibility and pricing.

 

Really tho, if you get better ram like mentioned you'd be in pretty good shape.   Maybe upgrade to a 6700xt if you can swing it.

 

Others will chime in with builds in your budget too.

 

@RONOTHAN##

 

@Fasauceome

Thank you that honestly helped a lot, that makes sense! The ram is going back tmmr and hopefully I can get a good price on the faster ram .  Thanks for taking the time to help, I’m enjoying learning. The case I think is gonna be a problem but I’ll deal with that later

 

I’ll be back when I’m assembling for sure because the other thing that confuses me is air flow (like intake and outtake). Even though theirs so many videos no ones pc is exactly the same. 

[Fasauceome]

17 hours ago, acm2002 said:

cpu: Intel Core i5-12600KF Desktop Processor 10

If you're going for a K-SKU CPU, you'll want to spend a bit more for a Z690 motherboard. Otherwise, saving a little money on the CPU by getting the non-K version or even spending a lot less for something like a 2400F will do you just fine. You can also beef up the motherboard to something with a bigger VRM heat sink to handle a more powerful CPU in the future.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sPLFf7/asus-prime-h670-plus-d4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-h670-plus-d4

[Dedayog]

6 hours ago, acm2002 said:

Thank you that honestly helped a lot, that makes sense! The ram is going back tmmr and hopefully I can get a good price on the faster ram .  Thanks for taking the time to help, I’m enjoying learning. The case I think is gonna be a problem but I’ll deal with that later

 

I’ll be back when I’m assembling for sure because the other thing that confuses me is air flow (like intake and outtake). Even though theirs so many videos no ones pc is exactly the same. 

Do you have a microcenter near you at all?

[Dedayog]

Something like this gives you $150 for a case, or you can look at your budget to see if you can add a bit...

 

I took the CPU down to the 12400F, but upped storage to 1TB and the GPU to a 6700.   It's a start and suggestions.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/238xmr

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/238xmr

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($166.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 CPU Cooler  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H670-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($40.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Intel 670p 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Asus ROG THOR 850P 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $110.00) 
Total: $854.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-03 10:21 EST-0500

[Chree]

Both on a crazy Sale ATM and the best of their kind. 


Amazon.com: Logitech G PRO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Ultra Portable Tenkeyless Design, Detachable Micro USB Cable, 16.8 Million Color LIGHTSYNC RGB Backlit Keys : Electronics


Amazon.com: Logitech G Pro Wireless Gaming Mouse with Esports Grade Performance : Video Games

[Mister Woof]

12 hours ago, Dedayog said:

No apologies.  The fact you WANT to learn is apparent.   Good stuff.

 

850w is a lot for you but there is no harm In it.  Great price too.  Will be good if you upgrade later.

 

CPU is more than enough.  Infact it will be fine for any gpu you may upgrade to later as well.

 

Ram spord is the Mhz.  Yours is 2666.  Mine is 3200.  Others run 3600mhz.  Mhz is million Hertz.  Or a million times per second.  CL is Cas Latency, or rather how long it takes the ram to react to a request I think.  19 is slow.  Mine is 16.  

 

So you have slow ram that reacts slow. Double bad .

 

See if you can find 3200mhz cl16 or 3600mhz cl18.  The speed increase offsets the latency increase.

 

It's a good build but use PCPartPicker.com to build a list.  It helps with compatibility and pricing.

 

Really tho, if you get better ram like mentioned you'd be in pretty good shape.   Maybe upgrade to a 6700xt if you can swing it.

 

Others will chime in with builds in your budget too.

 

@RONOTHAN##

 

@Fasauceome

I got a notification for a mention in this post but I am not there

 

so my feelings are now hurt

 

[Dedayog]

8 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I got a notification for a mention in this post but I am not there

 

so my feelings are now hurt

 

If your feelings were as strong as your PC game.... You'd be much better off

[Mark Kaine]

On 12/3/2022 at 5:08 AM, acm2002 said:

Yes, I originally had a 650w power supply from a random place on amazon on my list but after watching videos I got scared about having low wattage, so I wanted to get a 750 from a good brand with bronze or gold+.

i believe that's a good power supply, but also pretty much overkill, there are other good psus that are cheaper,  like corsair rmx, and 650w is probably more than fine

Spoiler

(but if you can get the thor for 110? its a nobrainer i guess)

the bronze etc ratings,  yes, it probably should have one, but by themselves are also quite meaningless and typically don't say much about quality (as its an efficiency rating,  which also doesn't get controlled after being issued once) but still, you probably want to have one at least bronze 

 

As for the case, there's a lot of issues with nzxt in general,  i have no idea why they're so popular tbh, bad build quality in general, they're usually a "hotbox" despite "cooling options", their fan software is problematic (data collection,  plus it's often buggy and has memory leaks)

 

I had a nzxt case for a few weeks... it was terrible,  paint coming off in some parts, front connectors just stopped working, and nzxt "cam" regularly used like *2GB* of RAM... 

 

which is to say, i don't recommend the brand lol.

 

idk,  there are nice cases from Thermaltake,  lian li, etc, probably with better build quality and airflow design. 

 

in any case good luck with nzxt "cam", i suppose? (since you also listed a nzxt cooler)

 

 

ps: i guess a lot was already mentioned,  just my 2 cents... 

[acm2002]

On 12/3/2022 at 10:00 AM, Chree said:

Both on a crazy Sale ATM and the best of their kind. 


Amazon.com: Logitech G PRO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Ultra Portable Tenkeyless Design, Detachable Micro USB Cable, 16.8 Million Color LIGHTSYNC RGB Backlit Keys : Electronics


Amazon.com: Logitech G Pro Wireless Gaming Mouse with Esports Grade Performance : Video Games

Thank you! I got the mouse, nice catch on the sale I appreciate it ! 

[acm2002]

On 12/4/2022 at 7:46 AM, Mark Kaine said:

i believe that's a good power supply, but also pretty much overkill, there are other good psus that are cheaper,  like corsair rmx, and 650w is probably more than fine

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(but if you can get the thor for 110? its a nobrainer i guess)

the bronze etc ratings,  yes, it probably should have one, but by themselves are also quite meaningless and typically don't say much about quality (as its an efficiency rating,  which also doesn't get controlled after being issued once) but still, you probably want to have one at least bronze 

 

As for the case, there's a lot of issues with nzxt in general,  i have no idea why they're so popular tbh, bad build quality in general, they're usually a "hotbox" despite "cooling options", their fan software is problematic (data collection,  plus it's often buggy and has memory leaks)

 

I had a nzxt case for a few weeks... it was terrible,  paint coming off in some parts, front connectors just stopped working, and nzxt "cam" regularly used like *2GB* of RAM... 

 

which is to say, i don't recommend the brand lol.

 

idk,  there are nice cases from Thermaltake,  lian li, etc, probably with better build quality and airflow design. 

 

in any case good luck with nzxt "cam", i suppose? (since you also listed a nzxt cooler)

 

 

ps: i guess a lot was already mentioned,  just my 2 cents... 

oh god, that’s not good. The case is for sure going back because it doesn’t fit. I don’t know much about what brand are good or not but I’ll take a look at thermaltake as I’m in the market for a new case ! 

[acm2002]

On 12/3/2022 at 9:21 AM, Dedayog said:

Something like this gives you $150 for a case, or you can look at your budget to see if you can add a bit...

 

I took the CPU down to the 12400F, but upped storage to 1TB and the GPU to a 6700.   It's a start and suggestions.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/238xmr

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/238xmr

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($166.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 CPU Cooler  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H670-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($40.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Intel 670p 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Asus ROG THOR 850P 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $110.00) 
Total: $854.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-03 10:21 EST-0500

 

On 12/3/2022 at 9:21 AM, Dedayog said:

Something like this gives you $150 for a case, or you can look at your budget to see if you can add a bit...

 

I took the CPU down to the 12400F, but upped storage to 1TB and the GPU to a 6700.   It's a start and suggestions.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/238xmr

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/238xmr

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($166.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 CPU Cooler  ($26.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H670-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($40.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Intel 670p 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 10 GB Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Asus ROG THOR 850P 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $110.00) 
Total: $854.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-03 10:21 EST-0500

I took your lesson on the RAM and got this ram, it’s all they had in store that match up to what you were saying and I honestly didn’t wanna deal with the shipping again. 
 

I have a micro center about a 40 minute drive from me but as I am going to need to get a new case hopefully before January I will be taking a trip down there soon. 
 

thats a good price for all the upgrades, I’m going to take a look at it all before I go, thank you for the advise! 
I hope the ram is right this time lol! 

[acm2002]

On 12/3/2022 at 7:00 AM, Fasauceome said:

If you're going for a K-SKU CPU, you'll want to spend a bit more for a Z690 motherboard. Otherwise, saving a little money on the CPU by getting the non-K version or even spending a lot less for something like a 2400F will do you just fine. You can also beef up the motherboard to something with a bigger VRM heat sink to handle a more powerful CPU in the future.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sPLFf7/asus-prime-h670-plus-d4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-h670-plus-d4

The motherboard will work with all my other parts? So I can just which out my motherboard and it should be fine right? 

[Dedayog]

16 minutes ago, acm2002 said:

 

I took your lesson on the RAM and got this ram, it’s all they had in store that match up to what you were saying and I honestly didn’t wanna deal with the shipping again. 
 

I have a micro center about a 40 minute drive from me but as I am going to need to get a new case hopefully before January I will be taking a trip down there soon. 
 

thats a good price for all the upgrades, I’m going to take a look at it all before I go, thank you for the advise! 
I hope the ram is right this time lol! 

Ram is good, it'll work fine.

 

Check microcenter deals online, they were giving free motherboard with 12th gen Intel cpus.

 

[Dedayog]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5005935/intel-core-i5-12600k,-asus-z690-plus-tuf-gaming-wifi-ddr4,-cpu-motherboard-combo

[Mark Kaine]

33 minutes ago, acm2002 said:

oh god, that’s not good. The case is for sure going back because it doesn’t fit. I don’t know much about what brand are good or not but I’ll take a look at thermaltake as I’m in the market for a new case ! 

the fractal design meshify 2 or torrent are good cases... don't get a compact or mini... trust me there's typically almost no place for cables etc, whereas an atx case will have plenty of room.

 

and as for the cooler,  go with what @Dedayogsuggested,  or a noctua as an alternative... if you really want a AIO then get anything just not nzxt lol... you really don't want this cam thing taking half of your pcs resources... corsair makes decent AIOs for example (im not into this stuff, no water comes into my pc, air only so i can't really recommend much in that regard lol)

 

Otherwise I think this is looking good!

[NF-A12x25]

On 12/3/2022 at 11:00 AM, Chree said:

and the best of their kind. 

not the keyboard, that’s for sure. Maybe somewhat decent for a gaming board, but not decent for a keyboard. There are less expensive prebuilt boards that are magnitudes better. Stuff from Leopold, Keychron, etc.

 

G pro is a great mouse though.

[Fasauceome]

9 hours ago, acm2002 said:

The motherboard will work with all my other parts? So I can just which out my motherboard and it should be fine right? 

Absolutely