Why you should support AMD

[Sonefiler]

STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD

JUST LET IT SINK

[Anthony10]

uhg..... just don't even.

Performance is all I care about. I don't give a crap whether it's branded intel or disney. Intel CPUs are better if you can afford them for more games, because games like minecraft only utilize one core. Intel has a wide variety of super high end CPUs too.

GPUs comes down to budget, nvidia and amd are good on them. Aftermarket cooling solutions such as the MSI Twin Frozr eliminate any speculation about noise/temps on the AMD GPUs.

Please no one else make a thread like this, it really has no point and will just start pointless arguments.

[TheSLSAMG]

Because even the top end Nvidia cards probably cost less than $100 to manufacture

Yeah, no...

 

 

R&D and production cost a lot more than your mind may think.

[worldwin]

I only buy radeon vcards cause ATI was Canadian.

[helping]

 Because even the top end Nvidia cards probably cost less than $100 to manufacture

Are you suggesting there's a problem with that? 

 

And Intel and Nvidia need AMD to be there anyway, so I wouldn't really worry. 

[TERAFLOP]

Simply not true, AMD on average spent 36% more than Nvidia on R&D in the past 5 years AMD also has a 30% larger workforce and an overall larger IP portfolio simply because they were around for much longer.

AMD's average R&D costs for the past 5 years = 352 mil.

Nvidia's average R&D costs for the past 5 years = 260 mil.

[Sonefiler]

uhg..... just don't even.

Performance is all I care about. I don't give a crap whether it's branded intel or disney. Intel CPUs are better if you can afford them for more games, because games like minecraft only utilize one core. Intel has a wide variety of super high end CPUs too.

GPUs comes down to budget, nvidia and amd are good on them. Aftermarket cooling solutions such as the MSI Twin Frozr eliminate any speculation about noise/temps on the AMD GPUs.

Please no one else make a thread like this, it really has no point and will just start pointless arguments.

1. You are the one who just started the argument. I think you need to commit seppuku.

2. The point with the coolers is that their reference ones suck because they don't have the budget to get a better one.

3. I would be skeptical of a Disney GPU

[Morpheus]

Are you suggesting there's a problem with that? 

 

And Intel and Nvidia need AMD to be there anyway, so I wouldn't really worry. 

why does intel and nvidia need AMD?

[theelitegamer]

why does intel and nvidia need AMD?

monopolys man.

[theelitegamer]

Like other people said couldn't care less, if it plays Dota 2 at 120 fps, I'm good..

[dragosudeki]

I don't like things like this. I don't care why I should support one company. I care more about companies I will absolutely not support. The ones currently for me are Apple and  EA.

[helping]

why does intel and nvidia need AMD?

Both are American. If AMD dropped out both would likely have antitrust issues. 

[TERAFLOP]

1. You are the one who just started the argument. I think you need to commit seppuku.

2. The point with the coolers is that their reference ones suck because they don't have the budget to get a better one.

False, their cooler wasn't approved by oems in time for a 2013 holiday launch so they decided to launch the 290/x with 7970 coolers instead to have a product ready during the most profitable season of the year.

This was confirmed during the toms hardware ask us anything in which Robert Hallock stated that OEMs needed more time to test and approve non-blower style gpu coolers.

[Imabigmac]

if a company can't offer competitive products the company will disappear eventually. I won't support a company who is starting fail just to keep them limping along. While you need competition another company will open up to replace then old one. 

[Immort]

If there is any reason to support AMD it's because they have superior products at every price tier.

Nvidia also have a lot of dirt on their hands with the recent tier 0 and gameworks scandals.

[Humbug]

The good thing is that AMD seems to have turned the corner as a company. They have cut their losses and it looks like they will start making profits again soon...

Look forward to the next decade of geforce vs radeon

[Morpheus]

monopolys man.

Then he should say the consumers need AMD not Intel and Nvidia

 

Both are American. If AMD dropped out both would likely have antitrust issues. 

what are antitrust issues? sorry I'm not following you..

[Admire]

Like other people said couldn't care less, if it plays Dota 2 at 120 fps, I'm good..

 

The human eye can do up to 60 frames per second or something like that....

 

 

Anthony10 - I don't want kids but if I did, I would have to make a disney mod!

 

Beauty and the Beast backplate!

[That Norwegian Guy]

I want to buy AMD. They just don't have a single product I'm interested in. When they catch up with a card that can feasibly be expected to run Star Citizen at launch, maybe, unless Nvidia have a better option (which they with 92% certainty will)

 

AMD does better for budget gamers, their high end is either completely gone (CPUs) or not good enough (GPUs)

[Pheromone Kvlt.]

Each to one's own... They are the pepsi to Nvidia's proverbial Coke and they definitely have reason to compete with Nvidia, but I'd rather take a lower end GTX than the best AMD I can afford, because I trust Nvidia.

[Humbug]

I want to buy AMD. They just don't have a single product I'm interested in. When they catch up with a card that can feasibly be expected to run Star Citizen at launch, maybe, unless Nvidia have a better option (which they with 92% certainty will)

You speak as if Nvidia GPUs are in a different performance league than AMD.

That's not reality.

 

And how do you know which will fare better on Star Citizen?

[Admire]

Im quite open minded. I have owned more Nvidia GPUs than AMD but Im not opposed to buying AMD. I just read a lot of reviews(and watch linus reviews) and view the pros and cons......a lot also depends on which games you are playing...

 

Lets say you spend 90% of your time playing battlefield 4, then it would seem logical to buy an AMD card.

 

 

 

You speak as if Nvidia GPUs are in a different performance league than AMD.

That's not reality.

 

And how do you know which will fare better on Star Citizen?

 

 

Yeah, we have no way of knowing how any card will fare better on star citizen.

[Osiris199]

The human eye can do up to 60 frames per second or something like that....

 

 

Anthony10 - I don't want kids but if I did, I would have to make a disney mod!

 

Beauty and the Beast backplate!

The human eye is not bound to the same principles as technology. The eye perceives a constant ray of light( which in terms of fps is infinite). The perceived light is transported to the brain via neurotransmitters which combines and forms the images the eye is looking at. This happens as fast as the brain has the capability to do so. Most people can only process around 60 fps and think this is fluid enough to be considered as watching real life.

People with 120+hz monitors can train their brains to rise above the normal standard. It's like training a muscle. Once they get used to higher levels of training, the standard has become too easy(or in this case, uncomfortably laggy) for them

[Lord Pantaloons]

I stick with companies that I trust, I don't trust AMD plain and simple. They always over hyper their products and make promises they never end up delivering. Plus I very much prefer Intel and Nvidia's approach to PC hardware. Intel focuses on making their cores better while AMD just adds more inferior cores at ineffective higher clocks and Nvidia focuses on fewer cores/higher clocks while AMD just throws more Stream Processors on the PCB with little to no regard to cooling or efficiency. I'll stick with what I know and trust and me doing that is not an issue in the grand scheme of things because enough people cling to the laughable idea they AMD's hardware is better to keep them going, if that wasn't the case then they would have died ages ago. This thread was pretty much unnecessary as all you really state is that they don't have the funds to throw at R&D like Nvidia and Intel does which is a well known fact on both sides of the fence. That fact is made worse by the fact that AMD is fighting on two fronts, they are going up against Intel and Nvidia at the same time in different markets with their already limited funds it's a bad situation. It's a bit like Germany in the war, their resources are spread too thinly to be truly effective and they're only hurting themselves more the longer they stick with it.

 

On another note this thread 100% grade A flamebait

[BookerDeWitt]

Yeah.... why the hell would I support a company that gouges customers on 3000$ cards and engages in questionable finance exchanges to bribe companies into dropping their competitors products.....wait, that's not AMD....