Consensus on powerplan settings (Ryzen 5000)

[Mark Kaine]

When i upgraded from 3000 --> 5000 series,  aside from mobo all i basically did was install new chipset drivers and now I'm recalling my power settings were always slightly weird, 85% minimum 100% maximum.  Reason being some kind of bug with 3000 series where the voltage wouldn't decrease during idle and that setting fixed it (and this was the official AMD fix, as ridiculous as it sounds)

So what do people have their power settings at with newer Ryzens? What is even the default?  5% / 100% Im guessing? 

[dizmo]

Power settings?
I've always left mine however they came.

[Sarra]

My 5950X is set to 5%/100%.

 

Uses less power at idle than my Xeon E3 1280V3. My 3900XT didn't use too much more at idle than my 5950X, but it was slightly less efficient at idle, IIRC.

 

Oh, I use PBO in the winter, and ECO mode in the summer with my 5950X, just for thermal/performance management. In the spring, I might turn ECO mode and PBO off, but once it gets over 70° out, I turn ECO mode on to keep temps in check.

[Mark Kaine]

15 minutes ago, Sarra said:

ECO mode

There's an ECO mode? o.o

 

my cpu supposedly doesn't have pbo, or at least not properly...[5800x3d] 

but i see, 5% / 100% seems to be the default then... I've been running 85% / 100% for so long i forgot what it was 

 

I'll give that a go at some point then, curious if voltages drop... this cpu is using much lower voltages than my 3600 ever did, i guess that's efficiency! 

 

edit: oh, eco mode... i suppose that's an AMD powerplan... somehow those are missing currently but I've always used the (modified)  Windows balanced power plan (because it always gave me the best performance) 

[Sarra]

12 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

There's an ECO mode? o.o

 

my cpu supposedly doesn't have pbo, or at least not properly...[5800x3d] 

but i see, 5% / 100% seems to be the default then... I've been running 85% / 100% for so long i forgot what it was 

 

I'll give that a go at some point then, curious if voltages drop... this cpu is using much lower voltages than my 3600 ever did, i guess that's efficiency! 

 

edit: oh, eco mode... i suppose that's an AMD powerplan... somehow those are missing currently but I've always used the (modified)  Windows balanced power plan (because it always gave me the best performance) 

ECO mode is actually part of PBO, you have to enable PBO to get ECO mode. The 5800X3D doesn't support PBO, so therefore, there's not ECO mode for it.

 

I'm on air cooling, and my room can get very hot in the summer (over 50°C), so ECO mode makes a big difference with the lower clocks and reduced heat output.

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, Sarra said:

ECO mode is actually part of PBO, you have to enable PBO to get ECO mode. The 5800X3D doesn't support PBO, so therefore, there's not ECO mode for it.

Ah, ok... i see. I liked pbo, it was fun, but near useless on the 3600, except yeah, i actually used it to lower temps,  -50mv, +200mhz "offset" or something... it ran 5-10c cooler at same or better performance, pretty neat!

 

6 minutes ago, Sarra said:

I'm on air cooling, and my room can get very hot in the summer (over 50°C), so ECO mode makes a big difference with the lower clocks and reduced heat output.

my room *can* get hot too, but it barely does actually... its only a few days per year though and then it's more like 30C , used to be more but we put some insulation that helps.

 

 

 

[CommanderAlex]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

So what do people have their power settings at with newer Ryzens? What is even the default?  5% / 100% Im guessing? 

In terms of the processor state in Windows Power Plan? Yeah that's right for me here running W11. Otherwise, I do have PBO enabled with some offsets/ adjustments to PPC/EDC etc.

[Mark Kaine]

14 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

In terms of the processor state in Windows Power Plan? Yeah that's right for me here running W11.

yeah, that's what i meant... i recall in the early days people would run crazy stuff like 99%/100% because "moar powerrr"  ! lol and I was just curious if something actually changed in terms of official recommendations etc... i mean i woulda expect the power plan to reset after a processor change but nope, its still the same 85/100% that i set years ago...

 

ps: yeah, as mentioned pbo is really cool, literally,  lowers power consumption,  improves performance (ideally) but the 3D doesn't have it (although it does, i hear RM has it and there's also a program called PBO2... ill look into that later as for now im happy the PC just runs with RAM overclock, and i dont feel it needs a lot of tuning,  temps are also ok, actually very similar to my old R5 3600...)

[CommanderAlex]

5 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, that's what i meant... i recall in the early days people would run crazy stuff like 99%/100% because "moar powerrr"  ! lol and I was just curious if something actually changed in terms of official recommendations etc... i mean i woulda expect the power plan to reset after a processor change but nope, its still the same 85/100% that i set years ago...

Lol, I did this before on my Intel rigs by pinning them at 99% or 100% before going with Ryzen and wanted to ensure I was getting the best performance out of my 5950X as possible. Apparently, they say more to just stick with the balanced plan instead of high performance(?) as Windows/AMD used to have their own Ryzen power plan for their processors, but seem to have integrated it more into the OS. I could be wrong here but I believe that's what happened. 

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

Lol, I did this before on my Intel rigs by pinning them at 99% or 100% before going with Ryzen and wanted to ensure I was getting the best performance out of my 5950X as possible. Apparently, they say more to just stick with the balanced plan instead of high performance(?) as Windows/AMD used to have their own Ryzen power plan for their processors, but seem to have integrated it more into the OS. I could be wrong here but I believe that's what happened. 

yeah, I actually tested it some time ago... windows balanced always was best performance,  not really by much but noticeable in benchmarks.

 

also thing is "high performance" usually runs hot, lowering the performance... lol.

 

i guess it makes sense with really good cooling though.  

[CommanderAlex]

7 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, I actually tested it some time ago... windows balanced always was best performance,  not really by much but noticeable in benchmarks.

 

also thing is "high performance" usually runs hot, lowering the performance... lol.

 

i guess it makes sense with really good cooling though.  

Yeah I leave the power plan alone as balanced and don't use high performance. 

 

Probably best to leave it there for performance and power draw overall.