Is a 3950x good value in the current market?

[alcom4x]

So I found a guy locally selling his 3950x and an MSI MEG X570 Godlike board selling for €500 and was on the verge of actually purchasing it for my unraid box. The guy sold the ram, so I was thinking of picking up a set of 3600Mhz CL16 32GB (2x16gb) kit. I also never had NVME storage on my current platform, So I'm thinking of buying a 2x Seagate firecuda 530 1TB, All In, this upgrade would cost me €850

 

Currently I run my unraid box on an Intel I7-4790K, Noctua NH-D15, 16GB DDR3 ASRock Z97 Pro4, GTX980, Coolermaster 850W PSU, 6 SATA HDDs, 2 Sata 2.5" SSDs and 1 SATA M.2 SSD (with a PCI-E sata adapter since I ran out of onboard sata ports).

 

Getting it out of the way, I'm not going to use it for gaming, like at all. I have a steamdeck and a series X, and my main computer is a 14" macbook pro w/32GB ram.

 

My Unraid box has a bunch of docker containers running (wireguard, pihole, homeassistant,nextcloud,photoprism etc), Plex with a bunch of HDR/4K films and tv shows (currently I keep getting a "server cpu not powerful enough" error message on certain higher bitrate movies), CentOS VM running mysql, MS Server 2016 running an important IIS site for my wife's shop and a windows 10 VM that I use as a crutch for whenever I need windows and/or an X86 device.

 

Sharing a measly 4 cores and 16gb on the above sorta gets the job done, but it struggles. So is it worth jumping to another dead platform?

 

[jaslion]

Honestly I'd say f it and do it. If the board is a real godlike and works fine you can legit resel it for 500+ right now and get a cheaper board making the upgrade "free".

 

For your usecase a 3950x is already overkill and this is a great deal if it all works.

[PDifolco]

AM4 isn't really dead, AM5 just launched like last week...and look at your Z97 board, you never upgraded anything on it neither !

For productivity a 3950X is still a beast,  the board is absolute overkill, but if you get CPU+board for $500 that's not much more than you'll pay for the same CPU and a midrange board, so it's an ok deal

You can save a bit on RAM by getting 3200CL16 or 3600CL18 too

[jaslion]

6 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

AM4 isn't really dead, AM5 just launched like last week...and look at your Z97 board, you never upgraded anything on it neither !

For productivity a 3950X is still a beast,  the board is absolute overkill, but if you get CPU+board for $500 that's not much more than you'll pay for the same CPU and a midrange board, so it's an ok deal

You can save a bit on RAM by getting 3200CL16 or 3600CL18 too

Id say its a great deal since the board whilst very overpriced is a 900$ board give or take. So just in money recouperating ways its a good deal

[PDifolco]

13 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Id say its a great deal since the board whilst very overpriced is a 900$ board give or take. So just in money recouperating ways its a good deal

Huh it was that expensive ? An used 3950X is around $350 I think, so getting that board for $150 is pretty neat indeed

 

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Huh it was that expensive ? An used 3950X is around $350 I think, so getting that board for $150 is pretty neat indeed

 

*It IS that expensive. Its a current limites run board original price was around 1500$ but lowest current price is about 900$ new

[alcom4x]

54 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

AM4 isn't really dead, AM5 just launched like last week...and look at your Z97 board, you never upgraded anything on it neither !

For productivity a 3950X is still a beast,  the board is absolute overkill, but if you get CPU+board for $500 that's not much more than you'll pay for the same CPU and a midrange board, so it's an ok deal

You can save a bit on RAM by getting 3200CL16 or 3600CL18 too

I just hope the MSI is able to run like the asrock did! first 3 years of its life gaming with the CPU overclocked to 4.7GHz, then after that retired in this unraid box, back at 4Ghz but running 24/7 except for powercuts since 2014. 

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

1 hour ago, alcom4x said:

So I found a guy locally selling his 3950x and an MSI MEG X570 Godlike board selling for €500 and was on the verge of actually purchasing it for my unraid box. The guy sold the ram, so I was thinking of picking up a set of 3600Mhz CL16 32GB (2x16gb) kit. I also never had NVME storage on my current platform, So I'm thinking of buying a 2x Seagate firecuda 530 1TB, All In, this upgrade would cost me €850

 

Currently I run my unraid box on an Intel I7-4790K, Noctua NH-D15, 16GB DDR3 ASRock Z97 Pro4, GTX980, Coolermaster 850W PSU, 6 SATA HDDs, 2 Sata 2.5" SSDs and 1 SATA M.2 SSD (with a PCI-E sata adapter since I ran out of onboard sata ports).

 

Getting it out of the way, I'm not going to use it for gaming, like at all. I have a steamdeck and a series X, and my main computer is a 14" macbook pro w/32GB ram.

 

My Unraid box has a bunch of docker containers running (wireguard, pihole, homeassistant,nextcloud,photoprism etc), Plex with a bunch of HDR/4K films and tv shows (currently I keep getting a "server cpu not powerful enough" error message on certain higher bitrate movies), CentOS VM running mysql, MS Server 2016 running an important IIS site for my wife's shop and a windows 10 VM that I use as a crutch for whenever I need windows and/or an X86 device.

 

Sharing a measly 4 cores and 16gb on the above sorta gets the job done, but it struggles. So is it worth jumping to another dead platform?

 

I wouldn't touch anything from Zen 2. Zen 3 is wayyyyyy faster and cheap right now and zen 4 is even faster than that. Literally grab a 5600 or something and it's lightyears faster in single core than 3950x

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

1 hour ago, PDifolco said:

AM4 isn't really dead, AM5 just launched like last week...and look at your Z97 board, you never upgraded anything on it neither !

For productivity a 3950X is still a beast,  the board is absolute overkill, but if you get CPU+board for $500 that's not much more than you'll pay for the same CPU and a midrange board, so it's an ok deal

You can save a bit on RAM by getting 3200CL16 or 3600CL18 too

AM4 is factually EOL. I don't know why people keep disputing otherwise. They are not going to release a "5900x3d" or whatever people keep saying. They MIGHT release a couple of SUPER low end 4400/4300 type chips but that's it.

[freeagent]

18 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

AM4 is factually EOL. I don't know why people keep disputing otherwise. They are not going to release a "5900x3d" or whatever people keep saying. They MIGHT release a couple of SUPER low end 4400/4300 type chips but that's it.

AMD already said AM4 will live alongside AM5 for awhile. But yeah, I would avoid Zen 2 in 2022.

[jaslion]

56 minutes ago, alcom4x said:

I just hope the MSI is able to run like the asrock did! first 3 years of its life gaming with the CPU overclocked to 4.7GHz, then after that retired in this unraid box, back at 4Ghz but running 24/7 except for powercuts since 2014. 

Just leave the 3950x at stock no need to oc it. It will be fine.

 

I really dont get people saying dont get zen 2. Its still plenty fast and this is an amzing deal. You are currently lacking threads and for 500$ you can get at best a 5700x and a cheap board. It will do what you need or you overdonit with a 3950x just because.

 

As I said the godlike is a EXTREME limited edition board and if you want to spend negative money on the upgrade sell this board. Get a b550 tomawak or something it will run the cpu just as well

[jaslion]

49 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

I wouldn't touch anything from Zen 2. Zen 3 is wayyyyyy faster and cheap right now and zen 4 is even faster than that. Literally grab a 5600 or something and it's lightyears faster in single core than 3950x

But thats not what op needs. Op needs more multithread performance. The cpu is pegged this is performace you cant get for 500 new at all.

[GuiltySpark_]

Definitely try to sell the board. These are the latest SOLD listings. 
 

[freeagent]

25 minutes ago, jaslion said:

I really dont get people saying dont get zen 2

Because it “is” so much slower than zen 3, in st and mt. I mean I’m sure it would be fine. 

[jaslion]

49 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Because it “is” so much slower than zen 3, in st and mt. I mean I’m sure it would be fine. 

It is but it's so much faster than what op has and they are getting a steal of a deal here.

[jaslion]

1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Definitely try to sell the board. These are the latest SOLD listings. 
 

People are desperate enough to even get china scam listings. So yeah this thing is gonna sell asap.