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Kasenumi

Hi everyone

So with all those new CPU, GPU and RAM launches I am thinking if I should upgrade my old 3 year old 1440p build now or wait for discounts later.

My current build:

Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 MOBO

RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

Ryzen 7 2700x

Gskill Flare X 3200 mhz CL14 16 GB RAM

1440p Gsync monitor

 

I built it in early 2019 for 1440p gaming, prices weren't that crazy back then, now might consider budget options for upgrade (if they bring high performance boost for reasonable prices). I mean paying more than a 1000$ for minimal 5-10 FPS or barely noticeable performance changes isn't smart.

Also considering current prices I started to think about switching to console gaming, without the need to upgrade anything, games cost the same. 

 

What would you upgrade or do? Or would you stick with this build for now and wait for discounts in the future?

 

 

 

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You'll see more performance gains than a few FPS. Should you upgrade? Only you can really answer that one.

If you feel the need for more performance, go for it. If you're fine with what you've got, then don't.

Personally I'd be waiting for lower DDR5 pricing and further maturity.

 

Games are considerably more expensive on console unless you always buy right at launch, and only buy big release AAA titles.

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For just a gaming system, maybe wait and see if the 5800X3D goes on sale and upgrade to that, it should be a pretty massive performance improvement for gaming over the 2700X if you're in CPU bound workloads and would let you keep your current motherboard and RAM. Maybe see if you can get a deal on a last gen GPU, 6900 XTs on the used market are relatively cheap ($500-600 is the average price for them, and I know a guy who managed to score one for $300) and are basically the fastest GPU you can get at 1440P.

 

Whether you actually need those is a different story though. Is there anything in the system that is lacking performance or do you just wanna upgrade for the sake of upgrading?

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4 minutes ago, Kasenumi said:

Hi everyone

So with all those new CPU, GPU and RAM launches I am thinking if I should upgrade my old 3 year old 1440p build now or wait for discounts later.

My current build:

Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 MOBO

RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

Ryzen 7 2700x

Gskill Flare X 3200 mhz CL14 RAM

1440p Gsync monitor

 

I built it in early 2019 for 1440p gaming, prices weren't that crazy back then, now might consider budget options for upgrade (if they bring high performance boost for reasonable prices). I mean paying more than a 1000$ for minimal 5-10 FPS or barely noticeable performance changes isn't smart.

Also considering current prices I started to think about switching to console gaming, without the need to upgrade anything, games cost the same. 

 

What would you upgrade or do? Or would you stick with this build for now and wait for discounts in the future?

 

 

 

I'm running a Ryzen 5 2600 and RTX 2060 and my plan is to wait 2 years to upgrade.  

 

There's a significant amount of hardware changes going on right now that will take time to work out the kinks (DDR5 as an example).  There's also a few more months until all the new stuff is fully released (Intel Arc in October, Intel 13th gen, AMD Radeon, etc).  

 

Wait a few months, see where things go, let the chip industry pricing fall back to reasonable levels.  If you aren't experiencing any issues with your current build, just leave it for now.  You probably will notice a performance boost with most upgrades, but you'll be paying more for it now than you will a few months down the road.

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12 minutes ago, Kasenumi said:

Hi everyone

So with all those new CPU, GPU and RAM launches I am thinking if I should upgrade my old 3 year old 1440p build now or wait for discounts later.

My current build:

Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 MOBO

RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio

Ryzen 7 2700x

Gskill Flare X 3200 mhz CL14 RAM

1440p Gsync monitor

 

I built it in early 2019 for 1440p gaming, prices weren't that crazy back then, now might consider budget options for upgrade (if they bring high performance boost for reasonable prices). I mean paying more than a 1000$ for minimal 5-10 FPS or barely noticeable performance changes isn't smart.

Also considering current prices I started to think about switching to console gaming, without the need to upgrade anything, games cost the same. 

 

What would you upgrade or do? Or would you stick with this build for now and wait for discounts in the future?

 

 

 

I would drop in a 5800x3D (if that board supports it) and enjoy life.  The 2700 was never a real gaming chip.

 

I assume that's 16GB RAM?

 

2080 is still strong 1440p.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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I wouldn't upgrade now if I were you! I mean, is there any game that you can't play right now even though if you had to lower settings a little bit? Because it's like you said, you could improve overall settings but would have also to spend a little bit more and thats so not right for you. I mean, an RTX 2080 is still optimal for nowadays games. On the other hand, there a guys like me who built a gaming pc in 2013, now that is old! 😄

 

For sure I would wait for next gen cpu's intel/amd and amd gpu's... and next year for sure this new generation will have much lower prices and than you could make a 5gen build!

 

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

I would drop in a 5800x3D (if that board supports it) and enjoy life.  The 2700 was never a real gaming chip.

 

I assume that's 16GB RAM?

 

2080 is still strong 1440p.

Do you really think that small of an improvement is worth a $450 CPU?

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It sorta depends upon 1) what your potential budget would be (how much you're willing to spend for a *real* performance boost), and 2) is your system doing what you want it to do right now?

 

If you're willing to drop $1k-$1.5k or so then you can get a huge boost. If you're thinking you'll try and spend a couple of hundred and notice a huge difference, you probably won't.

 

If your machine does what you want it to do now, and you don't have money to burn just for a handful of FPS, then why upgrade now? You could probably get a couple of more years out of that system. I recently swapped out a 2700X for a 3900X I got for a steal ($180, most of which I got back selling the 2700X), but to be honest it wasn't really necessary. For my wife's machine the 2700X still worked just fine.

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24 minutes ago, fisterkev said:

It sorta depends upon 1) what your potential budget would be (how much you're willing to spend for a *real* performance boost), and 2) is your system doing what you want it to do right now?

 

If you're willing to drop $1k-$1.5k or so then you can get a huge boost. If you're thinking you'll try and spend a couple of hundred and notice a huge difference, you probably won't.

 

If your machine does what you want it to do now, and you don't have money to burn just for a handful of FPS, then why upgrade now? You could probably get a couple of more years out of that system. I recently swapped out a 2700X for a 3900X I got for a steal ($180, most of which I got back selling the 2700X), but to be honest it wasn't really necessary. For my wife's machine the 2700X still worked just fine.

Same can be said of my upgrade from a 1600 to a 5600.  Only did it because I just needed another CPU and that's what was for sale.  None of my games really run any differently at WQHD so it would not have been worth it had I not been adding a computer to my household.  The computer with the 1600 is still fine and should be fore a while.

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1 hour ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Do you really think that small of an improvement is worth a $450 CPU?

Really depends on his pockets to be honest.  At $399, the performance of the 5800x3D over the 2700 isn't small really, and may push his machine to where he wants it.

 

Most people don't come asking for upgrade suggestions without WANTING to upgrade something.  I think this is a reasonable uptick vs buying a new GPU (and rig) that would be meaningful.

 

For me, yes it would be worth it.  I don't know much about the OP so I leave that for him to decide.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Most people don't come asking for upgrade suggestions without WANTING to upgrade something. 

 

4 hours ago, Kasenumi said:

if they bring high performance boost for reasonable prices

 

4 hours ago, Kasenumi said:

 

What would you upgrade or do? Or would you stick with this build for now and wait for discounts in the future?

This is asking about value, which is asking for insight into the general judgement of a reasonable person, so the inferences everyone made are appropriate.
 

Not to mention a 5600 is 2/5 the price of the 5800x3d and performa identically with a 2080 at 1440p.

 

And on that, the 2700x aint fast anymore but it can OC to 4.3 which should be fast enough for a 2080 at 1440p, if not very very very slightly bottlenecked in SOME games, but not enough that a fps difference would be noticeable with any upgrade.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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2 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

 

 

This is asking about value, which is asking for insight into the general judgement of a reasonable person, so the inferences everyone made are appropriate.
 

Not to mention a 5600 is 2/5 the price of the 5800x3d and performa identically with a 2080 at 1440p.

 

And on that, the 2700x aint fast anymore but it can OC to 4.3 which should be fast enough for a 2080 at 1440p, if not very very very slightly bottlenecked in SOME games, but not enough that a fps difference would be noticeable with any upgrade.

Good point and the 5600 would be a great stop gap.   With recent reviews and comparisons I was thinking the 5800x3D would hold over for a 4xxx card in a year.  I should have clarified further.

 

Either way, I'd replace the 2700.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

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