Would a watercooler help lower my temps and get better performance? Ryzen 7 5800x

[LunarHarvest]

Attached a picture here that shows my idle, and max temps when stress testing my cpu and gpu. I ordered a Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L and will be installing it this weekend. Would I be noticing any jump in performance? I don't think I am being throttled. It is a relatively budget water cooler. I am pretty noob with all this stuff, I assume I would be getting better temps correct?

 

Also as a semi funny/sad side note. A few weeks ago I checked my temps, and while gaming I was being throttled hitting 90c. I realized one of my fans were facing the wrong way.  hopefully I didn't do any real damage to my cpu.

[PDifolco]

What's your present cooler ??

[Clarkius]

The AIO you ordered should give you some noticeable improvement, but it would be helpful to know what you're using currently

[venomtail]

20 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L

Well what is your current cooler? If it's some stock AMD cooler then yes, there will be an improvement but you would have seen a far, far bigger improvement buying a decent air cooler or a 360mm AIO. 240mm AIO's are very small and often perform worse than cheaper prices air coolers.

[LunarHarvest]

2 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Well what is your current cooler? If it's some stock AMD cooler then yes, there will be an improvement but you would have seen a far, far bigger improvement buying a decent air cooler or a 360mm AIO. 240mm AIO's are very small and often perform worse than cheaper prices air coolers.

I have a Scythe Fuma 2

[LunarHarvest]

And also one of the fan clips on my current cooler is a little wonky, so its not as tight as a fit as it should be.

[Poinkachu]

1 minute ago, LunarHarvest said:

I have a Scythe Fuma 2

May I know what is your average ambient temp ?

[LunarHarvest]

Just now, Poinkachu said:

May I know what is your average ambient temp ?

Usually low to mid 50's

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

I have a Scythe Fuma 2

This cooler is quite large, you may not get improved thermals with a 240mm radiator. 

 

But 

29 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Also as a semi funny/sad side note. A few weeks ago I checked my temps, and while gaming I was being throttled hitting 90c. I realized one of my fans were facing the wrong way. 

You'll want to make sure your entire setup has decent airflow. Water cooling or no, if you generate too much turbulence or competing airflow in the case, it can have a negative impact on thermals. 

 

What case are you using, and can you give a general description of your airflow setup?

[Dedayog]

3 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

And also one of the fan clips on my current cooler is a little wonky, so its not as tight as a fit as it should be.

This, coupled with your backward fan comment leaves me concerned.  Not that you're doing damage to your CPU, you basically can't.  It's that you're not paying attention to things when putting it together, or you're half-assing and letting janky shit be in your machine.

 

Fan clips shouldn't be wonky, either get a new cooler or get that one RMA'd and properly fitted.  The Scythe can cool a 5800X decently, you don't need an AIO.  I wouldn't AIO under 360mm anyway, I'd go air. 

[LunarHarvest]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

This cooler is quite large, you may not get improved thermals with a 240mm radiator. 

 

But 

You'll want to make sure your entire setup has decent airflow. Water cooling or no, if you generate too much turbulence or competing airflow in the case, it can have a negative impact on thermals. 

 

What case are you using, and can you give a general description of your airflow setup?

This is currently the case I am using. My wire management isn't the best, so maybe that is effecting airflow?

[PDifolco]

4 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Usually low to mid 50's

The question was about ambnient room temp, hope it's not 50C

Anyway, a 240mm cooler vs a Fuma2 will not achieve much imho, you'll see some better temps especially with cold coolant, but overall maybe minus 3C or even less

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, LunarHarvest said:

This is currently the case I am using. My wire management isn't the best, so maybe that is effecting airflow?

Complete trash, run w/o sidepanel or swap case as that has very meh airflow

[LunarHarvest]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

The question was about ambnient room temp, hope it's not 50C

Anyway, a 240mm cooler vs a Fuma2 will not achieve much imho, you'll see some better temps especially with cold coolant, but overall maybe minus 3C or even less

Oh lol, my room is usually I would say in the low to mid 70's fahrenheit

[LunarHarvest]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Complete trash, run w/o sidepanel or swap case as that has very meh airflow

Damn that sucks, I kinda like this case. The worst thing about it to me is it doesnt remember what RGB mode I set on it. Like if I set it on red, when my computer goes to sleep and wakes up, it automatically goes rainbow again.

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

My wire management isn't the best, so maybe that is effecting airflow?

That wouldn't be a factor unless quite a lot of cables are in the way of the cooling fans 

 

Is this a prebuilt or did you make it yourself? If the fan setup is your own hand, I recommend having another crack at it, if your setup isn't already in through the front and out through the back/top, make it so. That's usually a good baseline. Also the case appears slightly congested by that glass front panel, so some negative pressure would be nice. In the BIOS, lower the fan speeds of the front fans quite a bit. Or move the front fans elsewhere in the case.

[LunarHarvest]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

That wouldn't be a factor unless quite a lot of cables are in the way of the cooling fans 

 

Is this a prebuilt or did you make it yourself? If the fan setup is your own hand, I recommend having another crack at it, if your setup isn't already in through the front and out through the back/top, make it so. That's usually a good baseline. Also the case appears slightly congested by that glass front panel, so some negative pressure would be nice. In the BIOS, lower the fan speeds of the front fans quite a bit. Or move the front fans elsewhere in the case.

I built it myself, yeah wire management isn't toooo terrible. My gpu cable just comes from over the top near where the 24 pin comes out. I was rushing when I put it together a year or so ago. And yeah the intake is in the front and then a single outlet coming out on the back. I will sometimes run without the side panel on. I notice the glass side panel gets very warm around where the cpu cooler is.

[LunarHarvest]

5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

That wouldn't be a factor unless quite a lot of cables are in the way of the cooling fans 

 

Is this a prebuilt or did you make it yourself? If the fan setup is your own hand, I recommend having another crack at it, if your setup isn't already in through the front and out through the back/top, make it so. That's usually a good baseline. Also the case appears slightly congested by that glass front panel, so some negative pressure would be nice. In the BIOS, lower the fan speeds of the front fans quite a bit. Or move the front fans elsewhere in the case.

Was afraid to post this, don't roast me too hard yall. 

[LIGISTX]

3 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Was afraid to post this, don't roast me too hard yall. 

Did flipping the fans to both face the same way the rear exhaust help (it certainly should have made a massive difference)? If so, no need for an AIO. That heatsink should be fine. 
 

Is it mounted properly? Did you use enough thermal paste? 

[LunarHarvest]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Did flipping the fans to both face the same way the rear exhaust help (it certainly should have made a massive difference)? If so, no need for an AIO. That heatsink should be fine. 
 

Is it mounted properly? Did you use enough thermal paste? 

Yeah it definitely helped, I can feel allot more heat coming out the rear exhaust fan now. Last week I took the cooler off and reapplied thermal paste so thats all good. Yeah i've been debating since the AIO is 90$, I already purchased it, but can still return it. 

[venomtail]

27 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

I have a Scythe Fuma 2

That's one of the top coolers, even beats some 360mm AIO's. A 240mm AIO will perform worse most likely.

 

Check that everything is set up correctly and works as intended. Thermal paste, contact etc.

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Yeah it definitely helped, I can feel allot more heat coming out the rear exhaust fan now. Last week I took the cooler off and reapplied thermal paste so thats all good. Yeah i've been debating since the AIO is 90$, I already purchased it, but can still return it. 

What are your temps now with the fans oriented correctly? 

[Kid.Lazer]

It looks like you have a single rear exhaust, along with 3 choked front intakes. Put another exhaust fan(s) at the top to help pull air through the case.

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Yeah it definitely helped, I can feel allot more heat coming out the rear exhaust fan now.

After a stress test, let us know if the thermals are now properly in check.

 

But you can still use this as an excuse to redo some of your cable management

[Poinkachu]

12 minutes ago, LunarHarvest said:

Was afraid to post this, don't roast me too hard yall. 

 

My cable management is at the very least twice worse than that.
Your problem isn't the messy cables.

Either try adding 1 more exhaust fan at top back like @Kid.Lazer mentioned.
Or try removing your case's front enclosure.