I need some help from someone who built before

[SebyGamerZROZ]

Budget : 1.5k  AU$

Here are 3 builds 
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/SebyGamerZROZ/saved/#view=M8DNzy

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/SebyGamerZROZ/saved/#view=bwdYdC

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/SebyGamerZROZ/saved/#view=Gxp4pg
please help

 

 

[Middcore]

Don't use a Ryzen 4500

 

Preferably don't use the NZXT H510

[SebyGamerZROZ]

1 minute ago, Middcore said:

Don't use a Ryzen 4500

 

Preferably don't use the NZXT H510

Any suggestions ?

[Dukesilver27-]

What are your use cases? Expectations?

Can't help you without clear and detailed information.

[SebyGamerZROZ]

3 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

What are your cases? Expectations?

Can't help you without clear and detailed information.

Just pc build
Im not thinking about a laptop 
and the bugdet its 1500 AU$

[Dukesilver27-]

I mean like would you use it for? Gaming? If gaming what resolution, target fps, types of games. If not gaming, like productivity/work stuff, what type of work. 

There was a typo on my post.

 

[SebyGamerZROZ]

Just now, Dukesilver27- said:

I mean like would you use it for? Gaming? If gaming what resolution, target fps, types of games. If not gaming, like productivity/work stuff, what type of work.

the spects to be
rez 1080p 60hz 
To be able to run modern games at a rezonable 60 fps without frame drops
1 ssd for windows 1 or 2 hard drives for storage
I was thinking mb a i5 9400f and a gtx 1660 super with a psu of 750w maybe

[Ryuikko]

About id reccommend 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cY89nt

The 12400f is the best choice since there's not much of a reason to go previous gen

Cheap cooler to keep the cpu cool

Good board for the price

Cheapest kit of 16gb ram

Cheap 1tb storage

6700xt instead of igpu?

Decent case with fans and a good 750 watt psu

[SebyGamerZROZ]

1 minute ago, Ryuikko said:

About id reccommend 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cY89nt

The 12400f is the best choice since there's not much of a reason to go previous gen

Cheap cooler to keep the cpu cool

Good board for the price

Cheapest kit of 16gb ram

Cheap 1tb storage

6700xt instead of igpu?

Decent case with fans and a good 750 watt psu

sounds good

[SebyGamerZROZ]

6 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

About id reccommend 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cY89nt

The 12400f is the best choice since there's not much of a reason to go previous gen

Cheap cooler to keep the cpu cool

Good board for the price

Cheapest kit of 16gb ram

Cheap 1tb storage

6700xt instead of igpu?

Decent case with fans and a good 750 watt psu

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/SebyGamerZROZ/saved/#view=Lqj74D

i changed the graphics card to a gtx 1660 super
thanks for help

[Dukesilver27-]

What I would recommend for 1080p 60 fps with $1500 budget, all value oriented.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cz9cBj

You actually could have 1080p 144 fps with this build.

[SebyGamerZROZ]

1 minute ago, Dukesilver27- said:

What I would recommend for 1080p 60 fps with $1500 budget, all value oriented.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cz9cBj

You actually could have 1080p 144 fps with this build.

ill take a look
ill have to change the graphics card tho to gtx 1660 super 
i heard it a good enough card for the rage of games i play tho
thanks as well for it

[Dukesilver27-]

2 minutes ago, SebyGamerZROZ said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/SebyGamerZROZ/saved/#view=Lqj74D

i changed the graphics card to a gtx 1660 super
thanks for help

May I ask why you insist on the GTX 16 series cards?

[SebyGamerZROZ]

Just now, Dukesilver27- said:

May I ask why you insist on the GTX 16 series cards?

to cut and save some money bcuz im a bit short and maybe in the future to buy a better one

[Dukesilver27-]

Thing is, you don't need 12400 for 1080p budget build, I use that for 1440p ultra setting, and let me tell you that 12400 would be bottlenecked by the GPU so hard. I'd cut down to 12100 and get a better GPU, but hey, suit yourself.

[SebyGamerZROZ]

1 minute ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Thing is, you don't need 12400 for 1080p budget build, I use that for 1440p ultra setting, and let me tell you that 12400 would be bottlenecked by the GPU so hard. I'd cut down to 12100 and get a better GPU, but hey, suit yourself.

a good cpu for a gtx 1660 super ?

[Ryuikko]

5 minutes ago, SebyGamerZROZ said:

to cut and save some money bcuz im a bit short and maybe in the future to buy a better one

It's not a good idea to buy a placeholder gpu since there's not much of a point to buy a bad gpu now and a better one later. If you wait a month when am5 releases, you might have the full 1500

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, SebyGamerZROZ said:

ill take a look
ill have to change the graphics card tho to gtx 1660 super 
i heard it a good enough card for the rage of games i play tho
thanks as well for it

RTX 3050 is only $450 AUD and is not only newer but better than the GTX 1660.

[SebyGamerZROZ]

2 minutes ago, fpo said:

RTX 3050 is only $450 AUD and is not only newer but better than the GTX 1660.

thats a better solution for the graphics card thanks

[trevb0t]

20 minutes ago, SebyGamerZROZ said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/SebyGamerZROZ/saved/#view=Lqj74D

i changed the graphics card to a gtx 1660 super
thanks for help

The 1660 Super is not a good buy.

The RTX 3050, 3060 and on are significantly more powerful.

The 6600, 6600XT and up are significantly more powerful on the AMD side, and the best bang for buck.

The suggested 6700XT is very likely over twice the performance value of a 1660 Super.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

The 1660 Super is not a good buy.

The RTX 3050, 3060 and on are significantly more powerful.

The 6600, 6600XT and up are significantly more powerful on the AMD side, and the best bang for buck.

The suggested 6700XT is very likely over twice the performance value of a 1660 Super.

how does the amd 6600 compare to 3050 and 3060?

[trevb0t]

9 hours ago, fpo said:

how does the amd 6600 compare to 3050 and 3060?

The naming structure is comparable. Generally the nVidia card is like 3-6% more powerful, but 20-30% more expensive.

6500 ~ 3050 (Don't buy the 6500 series for several reasons.)

6600 ~ 3060

6700 ~ 3070

6800 ~ 3080 etc.

 

For reference the 1660 Super was below the 1660Ti, which was below the RTX 2060, which was below the 2060 Super, which is approximately where the 3050 is in terms of gaming ability. So it's 3 direct steps down and 1.5 generations older than a current gen card. It's a significant power drop.

 

If you're building to a budget, the 6600/xt/6700 series are SO well priced for the performance. It's a real sweet spot. For 1080p 60FPS gaming there really aren't games out currently that are going to be a match for them.

AMD cards present a really interesting proposition: say you budgeted for a 3050, but AMD has a 3060 competitor for less money than the 3050... Then you are looking at a 3060, and there's a 3070 competitor for even less. It's how they have done business for years, except that this series of GPUs really isn't presenting a lot of reason not to buy (excepting the 6500 and 6500XT.)

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

The naming structure is comparable. Generally the nVidia card is like 3-6% more powerful, but 20-30% more expensive.

6500 ~ 3050 (Don't buy the 6500 series for several reasons.)

6600 ~ 3060

6700 ~ 3070

6800 ~ 3080 etc.

 

~snip~

I had no idea the performance was that close! That's insane. 

[trevb0t]

8 minutes ago, fpo said:

I had no idea the performance was that close! That's insane. 

You can easily go to youtube and type "6600 vs 3060" or whatever you want to compare. There's lots of easy data out there.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

You can easily go to youtube and type "6600 vs 3060" or whatever you want to compare. There's lots of easy data out there.

Tbh I didn't understand what their new cards were and how they were named nor what the XT meant. 

They changed their naming scheme too drastically.