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is this midrange build decent?

I've looked at the reviews for all the stuff on this list and watched a bit of LTT's "last guide you'll ever need". I plan to slowly upgrade buying one or two parts at a time when price drops

here is my current build

CPU : 14nm AMD Ryzen 3 1200

graphics : MSI GTX 1050 Ti OC/AERO ITX

mobo : MSI A320M PRO-VD PLUS (MS-7B38)

PSU : thermaltake smart600w

cpu cooler : standard smaller AMD cooler

DRAM : 2x dual channel 8GB crucial at 1200MHz 

storage : 1x SATA WDC WD 10EZEX [1TB]

here is my planned build (empty slots use same as old build) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPwdxs

 

 

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8GB of 1200MHz (do you mean 2400MHz after DDR?) RAM? That's pretty barebones. I'd invest in new RAM if you can, a 16GB dual channel kit at 3200MHz comes pretty cheap nowadays.

 

Whereabouts in the states are you? You can do better than $430 for a 3060. I would not pay that for that card. If you're okay switching to AMD, a 6600/6600XT are much better value. If you insist on sticking with Nvidia, shop around some more and you might find a 3060 closer to $320-330, or a 3060 Ti closer to $400.

It's entirely possible that I misinterpreted/misread your topic and/or question. This happens more often than I care to admit. Apologies in advance.

 

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AM4 right now is in a really weird spot. It can still make sense for some people, but it's pretty much exclusively for people doing ITX rigs, workstations, and people upgrading old AM4 systems while keeping the old motherboard. For everyone else Alder Lake with DDR4 makes more sense. The 12700F is about the same price as the 5800X but is miles faster and the B660 boards are about the same price as the B550 boards. 

 

The Cooler doesn't make a ton of sense, the Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B is a lot better and is currently $15 cheaper. 

 

There are better priced SSDs that cost about the same, the SK Hynix P31 is a great drive for $10 less.

 

The 3060 is a card in a really weird spot. The RX 6600 XT is a faster card that costs almost $100 less. The 3060 isn't a bad GPU per say, and it is the cheapest new way to get 12GB of VRAM if you need it for rendering, but for a gaming system like this seems to be, the 6600 XT is a better card. 

 

The 5000D isn't a bad case per say, but for this budget the $50 you spend on it over the 4000D would be better spent in a better GPU like a 6700 XT. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lq3L4s

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Its 2 8gig sticks in dual channel mode, both HWinfo and task manger say 1200 MHz

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1 minute ago, coffeefish said:

Its 2 8gig sticks in dual channel mode, both HWinfo and task manger say 1200 MHz

HWinfo reports the base speed, so your RAM is actually running at 2400MHz. Okay. So it's 16GB at 2400MHz, I'm more comfortable with that.

 

EVGA direct sells B-stock Nvidia GPUs, and they go on sale on Wednesday nights at midnight PDT. They have pretty decent deals on B-stock cards, but they go quick after midnight. In any case, I would still not pay $430 for a 3060.

 

Do you have a reason for sticking with Nvidia? Or are you comfortable making the switch to AMD?

 

 

It's entirely possible that I misinterpreted/misread your topic and/or question. This happens more often than I care to admit. Apologies in advance.

 

珠江 (Pearl River): CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X; Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (WIFI); RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 @3200MHz CL16; Cooling Solution: NZXT Kraken Z53 240mm AIO, w/ 2x Lian Li ST120 RGB Fans; GPU: EVGA Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 10GB FTW3 Ultra; StorageSamsung 970 EVO, 1TB; PSU: Corsair RM850x; Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh RGB, Black; Display(s): Primary: ASUS ROG Swift PG279QM (1440p 27" 240 Hz); Secondary: Acer Predator XB1 XB241H bmipr (1080p 24" 144 Hz, 165 Hz OC); Case Fans: 1x Lian Li ST120 RGB Fan, 3x stock RGB fans; Capture Card: Elgato HD60 Pro

 

翻生 (Resurrection): CPU: 2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 v2; Motherboard: ASUS Z9PR-D12 (C602 chipset) SSI-EEB; RAM: Crucial 28GB (7x4GB) DDR3 ECC RAM; Cooling Solution: 2x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO; GPU: 1x Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 FE, 1x EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 FE; StorageCrucial MX500, 500GB; PSU: Super Flower Leadex III 750W; Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro; Expansion Card: TP-Link Archer T4E AC1200 PCIe Wi-Fi Adapter Display(s): Dell P2214HB (1080p 22" 60 Hz)

 

壯麗 (Glorious): Mainboard: Framework Mainboard w/ Intel Core i5-1135G7; RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 SODIMM @3200MHz CL22; eGPU: Razer Core X eGPU Enclosure w/ (between GPUs at the moment); Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 1TB; Display(s): Internal Display: Framework Display; External Display: Acer (unknown model) (1080p, 21" 75 Hz)

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2 minutes ago, coffeefish said:

Its 2 8gig sticks in dual channel mode, both HWinfo and task manger say 1200 MHz

OK, that's not particularly great. It's usable, but I'd probably spend some time learning how to do RAM overclocking to see if you can get that to 3200MHz CL16 (most RAM can do that)

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5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

AM4 right now is in a really weird spot. It can still make sense for some people, but it's pretty much exclusively for people doing ITX rigs, workstations, and people upgrading old AM4 systems while keeping the old motherboard. For everyone else Alder Lake with DDR4 makes more sense. The 12700F is about the same price as the 5800X but is miles faster and the B660 boards are about the same price as the B550 boards. 

 

The Cooler doesn't make a ton of sense, the Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B is a lot better and is currently $15 cheaper. 

 

There are better priced SSDs that cost about the same, the SK Hynix P31 is a great drive for $10 less.

 

The 3060 is a card in a really weird spot. The RX 6600 XT is a faster card that costs almost $100 less. The 3060 isn't a bad GPU per say, and it is the cheapest new way to get 12GB of VRAM if you need it for rendering, but for a gaming system like this seems to be, the 6600 XT is a better card. 

 

The 5000D isn't a bad case per say, but for this budget the $50 you spend on it over the 4000D would be better spent in a better GPU like a 6700 XT. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lq3L4s

thanks for the quick response, im definitely getting a new motherboard in the near future and a CPU sometime after that, if that intel cpu doesn't run too hot that looks like a great option , i've always been a bit skeptical of AMD GPU's and I would need to look into hardware encoding .

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3 minutes ago, coffeefish said:

if that intel cpu doesn't run too hot that looks like a great option

It consumes more power than the 5800X, but it's no where near 12900K levels. It tops out around 150-160W depending on the specific workload, which is a bit warm but not crazy. 

 

5 minutes ago, coffeefish said:

i've always been a bit skeptical of AMD GPU's and I would need to look into hardware encoding

They've gotten a lot better pretty recently. The drivers still aren't as polished as Nvidia GPUs, but they're a lot faster for the price. Plus, while their hardware H.264 encoder isn't amazing (it's usable and everything, just not up to NVENC), their H.265 encoder is pretty top notch. Plus their performance per watt is pretty great, and because AMD limits their power limits quite a bit on those cards, you can usually up the performance a fair bit by disabling the power limits with a soft PowerPlay table (at least on their top end cards, I haven't tried it on the 6600 series). 

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7 hours ago, coffeefish said:

here is my planned build (empty slots use same as old build) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPwdxs

This is all over the place. Such a tiny expensive cooler, wasting money on lost performance. 3060's are really bad value for money right now and why geet a 5000D case? It's huge and you're not gonna use like 80% of what it has to offer.

 

Something like this would make far more sense. Reused your PSU and recused your RAM that you cold try and overclock:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($88.79 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Challenger Pro OC Video Card  ($559.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
UPS: CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD UPS  ($174.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1368.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-06 03:53 EDT-0400

Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3200MHz 16GB Dominator Platinum - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 4TB HDD - XFX 5600XT - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - AOC E2460SH 24.0 Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - HyperX Cloud Logitech Z323

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