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Is the B450M-A PRO MAX compatible with the Ryzen 3 3100 out of the box?

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Hi, My brother just got a B450M-A PRO MAX, a Ryzen 3100 and 2x8GB 3200MHz C16 Corsair Vengance LPX.

The CPU does heat up just a bit, but nothing shows on screen, plus the LED keyboard doesn't light up.

So is this motherboard compatible or I need to flash a new BIOS, in which case its a problem.

PSU 850W (I had it around, so I used it)

In the MB box it says 911-7C52-002 I think its the BIOS version.

If you need any more Info please tell me. Thanks

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This motherboard does support the Ryzen 3100:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-A-PRO-MAX/support#cpu

 

And all their BIOSes start with 7C52 so it's hard to tell your exact BIOS version,

 

Nonetheless, it looks like the oldest BIOS version for this motherboard is 7C52v30 and that's the version recommended for this CPU, so it's safe to say it supports the Ryzen 3100 out of the box:

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-A-PRO-MAX/support#bios

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2 minutes ago, Filingo said:

This motherboard does support the Ryzen 3100:

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-A-PRO-MAX/support#cpu

 

And all their BIOSes start with 7C52 so it's hard to tell your exact BIOS version,

But type this command in CMD (Windows) to get the BIOS version and see what version you have:

wmic bios get smbiosbiosversion

 

Or check in the BIOS itself if you know how to get inside

 

Nonetheless, it looks like the oldest BIOS version for this motherboard is 7C52v30 and that's the version recommended for this CPU, so it's safe to say it supports the Ryzen 3100 out of the box:

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-A-PRO-MAX/support#bios

The PC doesn't POST, black screen so I cant check the BIOS.
Is this MB able to POST to BIOS without CPU?

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Just now, FrontsLeader said:

The PC doesn't POST, black screen so I cant check the BIOS.
Is this MB able to POST to BIOS without CPU?

Oh yes I corrected my answer but you saw it before the correction damn 😄 

 

I wanted to say that it should support this CPU out of the box, and the issue seem to be something else and not compatibility issue

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This CPU does not have integrated graphics, what graphics card do you have?

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4 minutes ago, FrontsLeader said:

The PC doesn't POST, black screen so I cant check the BIOS.
Is this MB able to POST to BIOS without CPU?

Late production B450 boards have signs on the boxes saying "ZEN2 READY" check to see if your have one.

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Just now, Filingo said:

This CPU does not have integrated graphics, what graphics card do you have?

GTX 960

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5 minutes ago, Levent said:

Late production B450 boards have signs on them saying "ZEN2 READY" check to see if your have one.

On the box they say support Ryzen 3000.

Its just sometimes AMD launch new CPUs with the same Gen name like the 1600AF which is Zen+ and not Zen1 like the 1600

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6 minutes ago, FrontsLeader said:

GTX 960

Make sure the cables are connected to the GPU and not the motherboard (but since the keyboard doesn't light up it's probably not the issue)

 

Also, remove both RAM sticks, and plug only one on SLOT 1

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1 minute ago, FrontsLeader said:

The PC doesn't POST, black screen so I cant check the BIOS.
Is this MB able to POST to BIOS without CPU?

 

No consumer board can post to BIOS without a CPU. 

 

Some can update their BIOS without posting, but not that one. 

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Just now, Filingo said:

Make sure the cables are connected to the GPU and not the motherboard (but since the keyboard doesn't light up it's probably not the issue)

 

Also, remove both RAM sticks, and plug only one on SLOT 2

Tested all the above, nothing. If only it was a MB with BIOS flash back at least I would know the BIOS is good.

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Just now, Middcore said:

 

No consumer board can post to BIOS without a CPU. 

 

Some can update their BIOS without posting, but not that one. 

I think there is a bord from MSI or Asus with this, but its too expensive.

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19 minutes ago, FrontsLeader said:

Tested all the above, nothing. If only it was a MB with BIOS flash back at least I would know the BIOS is good.

 

But it's still weird for me that it can be BIOS version issue since this motherboard supports the 3100 from the first BIOS it had according to the MSI website (7C52v30)

 

Do you have other RAM / GPU to test?

 

It could be this RAM

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16 minutes ago, Filingo said:

 

But it's still weird for me that it can be BIOS version issue since this motherboard supports the 3100 from the first BIOS it had according to the MSI website (7C52v30)

 

Do you have other RAM / GPU to test?

 

It could be this RAM

I have my main pc DDR4 but no AMD CPU, I plan to test with my RAM if no other solution is available.

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Make sure you didnt forget the CPU power plug, that's sometimes forgotten.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Make sure you didnt forget the CPU power plug, that's sometimes forgotten.

😄 happened to me a few times

 

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Make sure you didnt forget the CPU power plug, that's sometimes forgotten.

Its in, BTW when you don't put the 4-pin the CPU doesn't heat up (tested).

 

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19 minutes ago, FrontsLeader said:

Its in, BTW when you don't put the 4-pin the CPU doesn't heat up (tested).

 

It's the power source of the CPU, so no wonder.

 

How long did you wait for it to post? Ryzen can take a couple minutes during first boot

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

It's the power source of the CPU, so no wonder.

 

How long did you wait for it to post? Ryzen can take a couple minutes during first boot

Not a couple of minutes for sure

Will give it a shot for like 5min

 

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4 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

It's the power source of the CPU, so no wonder.

 

How long did you wait for it to post? Ryzen can take a couple minutes during first boot

My first Ryzen boot took upwards of 3 minutes, it felt like 10....

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So, I found the source of the problem.

Tested with my GSkill RAM 2133MHz base (i thinkg), 2800MHZ in XMP.
The Ryzen sustem work fine as long as i dont use the 2800MHz speed.
I geuss the R3 3100 doesn't support high speed RAM.
when i put back the corsair 3200 MHz RAM nothing, so to me this confurme its a speed problem.

Also, the PSU on my brother PC was bad, something is not working in it (I geuss the 5v or somthing) because the fans turn but no boot. with my PSU the PC work fine.


In summary, R3 3100 + fast RAM = no good ------ R3 3100 + Slow RAM = good -------- PSU = BAD somehow.


thanks all for your help especialy Filingo.

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