Posted March 19, 2022 Im just wondering whats the diff between these xeons atm im testing around with overclocking my x5660 and it can do 4.3g at 1.288v w 3 cores with a temp of 85c on prime95 smallest ffts, seems like a pretty decent result since the other 3 disabled cores are pretty similar and had to do 3 cores otherwise itd stick with the 2 best cores which can do 4.5g at ~1.38v which is pretty good but thats just the best cores, the other ones are mediocre I wanna know if getting a diff xeon series would help with ocing, not just core clocks but also things like uncore cause this cpu tops at ~4g 1.5v qpi for a stable uncore which is pretty weak ngl. Mainly looking for better core freq and uncore freq overclocks Whats the diff between x xeons and e xeons? Cause i can find an e5649 for 10$ which is pretty much the same price as an x5650 just 22x multi max which is fine since board does 224 bclk Whats the diff between x xeons and w xeons? I do know they have more ram dividers but other than that is there any more differences? Whats the diff between x xeons and l xeons? L5640 are going for ~12$ which is more expensive than x5650 (10$) and they seem to be 2 bins lower compared to it and the e5649, they look to be quite inferior other than the power draw but for all i know at high core freq these things start heating up like theres no tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 19, 2022 The letters are related to binning and power envelope. These chips were never intended for overclocking, so that is not a part of it. L - Low power operation E - Efficiency oriented operation - 80W TDP or lower X - Performance oriented operation - 95+ TDP W - Workstation single socket operation - similar to E/X series, but with only 1 QPI link. The X chips have the best binning generally. PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - MSI B550M Mortar - 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3600 @ CL16 - ASRock RX7800XT - 660p 1TBGB & Crucial P5 1TB - Fractal Define Mini C - CM V750v2 - Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 19, 2022 Author 1 hour ago, NelizMastr said: The X chips have the best binning generally. Well assuming that i can keep my cpu under 80c it should be able to do 4.3g at ~1.3v accounting for the worst core on this cpu, it seems like this cpu has a diminishing returns zone ~4.3g since on 2 of the best cores it takes ~0.08v to get 4.4g and another 0.08v to get to 4.5g On 775 ive heard the e xeons have the best binning cause low tdp and e5450 vs x5450 is pretty much the same cpu but the x5450 has a higher tdp. Maybe ill get an e xeon just to screw around and see if they have decent binning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said: Well assuming that i can keep my cpu under 80c it should be able to do 4.3g at ~1.3v accounting for the worst core on this cpu, it seems like this cpu has a diminishing returns zone ~4.3g since on 2 of the best cores it takes ~0.08v to get 4.4g and another 0.08v to get to 4.5g On 775 ive heard the e xeons have the best binning cause low tdp and e5450 vs x5450 is pretty much the same cpu but the x5450 has a higher tdp. Maybe ill get an e xeon just to screw around and see if they have decent binning The E5649 should be an interesting one to try, as it's the lowest TDP 6-core in that particular range. PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - MSI B550M Mortar - 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3600 @ CL16 - ASRock RX7800XT - 660p 1TBGB & Crucial P5 1TB - Fractal Define Mini C - CM V750v2 - Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 19, 2022 Author 1 minute ago, NelizMastr said: The E5649 should be an interesting one to try, as it's the lowest TDP 6-core in that particular range. Well there is the l5645 a bin lower than it but for all i know they heat up like crazy when clocked high so they become garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said: Well there is the l5645 a bin lower than it but for all i know they heat up like crazy when clocked high so they become garbage For X58 clocking, try to find the strongest air cooler that you can. LGMRT, TS140P, D15 if you have to, and maybe a couple of others.. but the first two are stronger, even if its just by a little. I didn't have a D15.. I had a D14, my Thermalrights were the better cooler with fire breathing X58. AMD R7 5800X3D | Thermalright Frost Commander 140, TY-143 Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z @ 3733C14 Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC @ 3045/1495 | WD SN850, SN850X, SN770 Seasonic Vertex GX-1000 | Fractal Torrent Compact RGB, Many CFM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 I have had good success with the X58 W series Xeons. The W3670 works good if you have a board that supports BCLK overclocking. If you have a locked down Dell board, you can multiplier overclock the W3680 or W3690. Both of these are unlocked processors and are almost identical to the Core i7-980X and Core i7-990X. You get an Extreme CPU without the Extreme price. Just add lots of voltage and the W3670 can run Cinebench stable without any issues at a good speed. 4700 MHz is more practical than 5000 MHz. The extra money for a W3670 compared to the X5660 gets you a higher maximum multiplier for a few more MHz if you feed it lots of voltage. The newer 32nm X58 run a lot cooler compared to the original 45nm CPUs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 Author 7 hours ago, freeagent said: For X58 clocking, try to find the strongest air cooler that you can. LGMRT, TS140P, D15 if you have to, and maybe a couple of others.. but the first two are stronger, even if its just by a little. I didn't have a D15.. I had a D14, my Thermalrights were the better cooler with fire breathing X58. Im already going ghetto loop, already got all the parts other than pump cause appaerently its not enough even though this rad is effectively just a 480mm in a square shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said: lready got all the parts other than pump cause appaerently its not enough even though Heheh.. the box says 130w.. but in reality getting into the 300w+ range is fairly easy to achieve under the right circumstances.. My old x5690 was an E.S. Maybe it was slightly abnormal. It was ok up to 1.4v for 4400 and scaled to 4800 at 1.6v. I generally reserved the last 200MHz for winter AMD R7 5800X3D | Thermalright Frost Commander 140, TY-143 Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z @ 3733C14 Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC @ 3045/1495 | WD SN850, SN850X, SN770 Seasonic Vertex GX-1000 | Fractal Torrent Compact RGB, Many CFM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 Author 7 hours ago, freeagent said: Heheh.. the box says 130w.. but in reality getting into the 300w+ range is fairly easy to achieve under the right circumstances.. Guess these xeons are just as bad as those i9 huh except they only reach the performance of first gen ryzen when oced xD Welp after i get my loop working ill prob immedeatly upgrade it unless i just stick to 4.3g which is prob what id do, in that case id get good ram in a 2x3 or 4x2 config just so the thing is usable and i can play lighter games on it + school stuff (i wont get into heavier titles for a long while) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 You will want to retain triple channel.. dual channel is no fun. AMD R7 5800X3D | Thermalright Frost Commander 140, TY-143 Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z @ 3733C14 Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC @ 3045/1495 | WD SN850, SN850X, SN770 Seasonic Vertex GX-1000 | Fractal Torrent Compact RGB, Many CFM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 Author 2 hours ago, freeagent said: You will want to retain triple channel.. dual channel is no fun. No wonder why my x5660 at 4.5 is performing worse than my e8400 at 4.7 in single core xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said: No wonder why my x5660 at 4.5 is performing worse than my e8400 at 4.7 in single core xD If my memory hasn’t completely failed, my x3360 at 4GHz is about as strong as a stock i5 750. My old e8600es at 4700 made about the same all core horsepower as a stock Q6600. I only retired my x5690es because my 3770K was just as strong at given vcore while using significantly less power.. at least in cinebench Many people dismiss the third channel, but the reality is you are leaving performance behind. AMD R7 5800X3D | Thermalright Frost Commander 140, TY-143 Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z @ 3733C14 Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC @ 3045/1495 | WD SN850, SN850X, SN770 Seasonic Vertex GX-1000 | Fractal Torrent Compact RGB, Many CFM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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