Can't choose between 5700G and 5800X !

[CodeOT]

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Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: software development, mostly RTS systems in Java, so need m threads, and lots of light AI and ML and lastly gaming with low quality but high fps

 

Other details (I currently have a very good power supply and RAM.

A EVGA gold 850W and some Trident Z 3600Mhz, currently running 2200G with a GTX 950.

I know either 5700G or ,5800X will do more than fine for my work, thats why I need to know which one is the best for gaming..

5700G or 5800X with GTX 950.

I'm able to push my GTX 950 to around @1150MHz core clock and +700Mhz offset on memory.

For RAM I'm not sure, I just pushed it to 3777 I think and that's it.

I'm really really confused as to which CPU to choose pls help

[Dreckssackblase]

If you don't need the integrated graphics then get the 5800x.

[Chris Pratt]

The GTX 950 is still going to be better than the onboard graphics, so since you have a dedicated GPU, the 5800X is a no-brainer. The 5700G actually only has the CPU performance of a 5600X, with less cache. It also only supports PCIe 3.0, whereas the 5800X has PCIe 4.0 support. You're trading a lot with 5700G for the iGPU you won't need anyways.

[CodeOT]

40 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

The GTX 950 is still going to be better than the onboard graphics, so since you have a dedicated GPU, the 5800X is a no-brainer. The 5700G actually only has the CPU performance of a 5600X, with less cache. It also only supports PCIe 3.0, whereas the 5800X has PCIe 4.0 support. You're trading a lot with 5700G for the iGPU you won't need anyways.

Thanks for the reply.

That makes sense. I just wanna make sure like, is 5700G onboard graphics That bad compared to GTX 950, because if the difference is like around 5-10% I would just take the 5700G, since I won't need a GPU, since I prefer a lighter machine as I travel. I forgot to mention that earlier.

 

Another separate question, realistically, after OC 5700G, how does it compare to say (5600X, 11700K)@stock etc in terms of CPU performance. 

Thanks again, will appreciate any feedback, I plan to purchase in the next few hours most likely.

[CodeOT]

Since I'll be making the purchase soon, another sub questions,

Right now I rock a 2200G.

Do I first update BIOS, then install new CPU, or install new CPU and update bios

[Chris Pratt]

49 minutes ago, CodeOT said:

That makes sense. I just wanna make sure like, is 5700G onboard graphics That bad compared to GTX 950, because if the difference is like around 5-10% I would just take the 5700G, since I won't need a GPU, since I prefer a lighter machine as I travel. I forgot to mention that earlier.

No, it's significant. The GTX 950 has somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-50% more performance than the Vega 8 in the 5700G.

 

52 minutes ago, CodeOT said:

Another separate question, realistically, after OC 5700G, how does it compare to say (5600X, 11700K)@stock etc in terms of CPU performance. 

Not sure exactly, but it doesn't OC well in general. I wouldn't expect much. The chief handicap on the 5000 series APUs is the drastically reduced cache. Cache is pretty much the secret sauce to Ryzen's performance, so having less directly impacts that.

[CodeOT]

Gotcha, Thanks a lot. 

Now I feel quite bad because, when I went back to the store.. the last 5800X got reserved for a build.... I was so excited to finally upgrade CPU after 3 years.

So I just grabbed the 5700G since I need a CPU anyway, they had the 5600X too but price was similar do I got the 5700G, Ill pair it with the GTX 950 for sure according to what you mentioned.

And idk if this is a good idea but I'll share my 5700G with and w/out GTX 950 benchmarks with both pushed to whatever I can. 

Thanks again for helping but It seems I got unlucky today...