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It's launch day for the only platform that can presently utilize DDR5. It will be a while for it to be readily available with good selection.

 

That said, it seems like high speed /low latency DDR4 in Gear 1 performs as good or better than middling DDR5 in Gear 2.

 

Not helpful if you already got a DDR5 Mobo, but perhaps you can switch?

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7 minutes ago, DOOOLY said:

Will DDR5 be hard to come by like gpus? I just bought the 12900K and a ROG Maximus Hero. MemoryExpress has no DDR5 kits in stock.

Well its gonna be expensive and buying sht just after it came out does not look like a good idea at all, esp if you just leave it stock and dont bother tuning it considering the k cpu and z board

 

Ddr5 will eventually start becoming available but you may have to wait a day or 2 or 3

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2 minutes ago, DOOOLY said:

I could switch but most of the motherboards that utilize ddr4 are not great on the I/O end.

Friend picked up a Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX DDR4; he seems to be happy with it on paper.

 

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2 minutes ago, adarw said:

damn those are expensive.

That's actually closer to the lower mid range of Z690, sadly.

 

I have the Z590 version, and I remember paying $239 for it.

 

Intel CPU costs are heavily offset by expensive motherboards; you can't just toss their CPUs into any old compatible motherboard and expect good performance like you can with B550.

 

It's one major drawback to the platform.

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I got the same combo as you (12900K with Hero board) and have a tiny 8GB stick of Crucial DDR5-4800 coming in the next few days. (amazon canada preorder...) It's the only DDR5 I saw for preorder last week. Apparently it'll be a couple of weeks before more/better DDR5 gets here.

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it wont be as hard to buy as GPUs, but it's after all a new product

 

9 minutes ago, DOOOLY said:

I just wanted to go all out on a upgrade

You're still held back by memory though, we dont have low latency kits that go below JEDEC specs yet so there's likely still some bottleneck from that by standards of going all out.

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1 hour ago, DOOOLY said:

Yes, I paid 760$ cad for the Asus Hero board which is out outrageous. I just wanted to go all out on a upgrade and want the most FPS in Warzone.

one perk to waiting, some better bins are already confirmed to be coming out, just gotta be quick on those, cl36 6800.

 

If you get just any ddr5 they will likely end up worse than ddr4

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10 minutes ago, xg32 said:

one perk to waiting, some better bins are already confirmed to be coming out, just gotta be quick on those, cl36 6800.

 

If you get just any ddr they will likely end up worse than ddr4

Its kind of odd, despite the motherboard being a very important component I have a hard time justifying spending so much on one.

 

Even with overlooking, there's not much of a performance difference between a $200 and a $700 motherboard, or if there is, it's down to the minutiae.

 

Would rather have a big SSD and 100mhz less than a $700 motherboard.

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19 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Its kind of odd, despite the motherboard being a very important component I have a hard time justifying spending so much on one.

 

Even with overlooking, there's not much of a performance difference between a $200 and a $700 motherboard, or if there is, it's down to the minutiae.

 

Would rather have a big SSD and 100mhz less than a $700 motherboard.

msi's been putting 12-14 phases on everything, should be good enough, looking at the power draw there's a budget build in there with a 12600k (with oc room that the 12900k doesn't have) that just leaves everything in the dust. Don't really need a fancy mobo for 200w these days.

 

intel also gone from d15 to 280mm to 360mm as "minimum requirements" for cooling the last 2-3 gens. hopefully amd brings us back down to earth.

 

I'll temper my excitement til we see more mature ddr5, currently planning to get a next gen gpu for both current builds and call it, how about you?

 

 

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1 hour ago, xg32 said:

msi's been putting 12-14 phases on everything, should be good enough, looking at the power draw there's a budget build in there with a 12600k (with oc room that the 12900k doesn't have) that just leaves everything in the dust. Don't really need a fancy mobo for 200w these days.

 

intel also gone from d15 to 280mm to 360mm as "minimum requirements" for cooling the last 2-3 gens. hopefully amd brings us back down to earth.

 

I'll temper my excitement til we see more mature ddr5, currently planning to get a next gen gpu for both current builds and call it, how about you?

 

 

Ive got a decidedly midrange board on my 10900k with a fairly modest 5.1 GHz all core OC - it's a 12 phase Dr.MOS 60a board and I've got no complaints.

 

Seems when paired up against the 12600k/12900k in games, with a similar graphics card, 1440p is about 10% better against a stock 10900k. Imagine slightly less improvement compared to a mild overclock like mine.

 

Unlikely I'll be buying into this generation.

 

Won't bother until I upgrade graphics. Need 20%+ improvement in relative performance when paired with other components to be worthwhile, not happening with just a 3080 at 1440p.

 

And given how hard it is to get GPUs..

 

By the time I can get a next gen GPU.....14th gen Intel will be out

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  • 2 weeks later...

I have an i9 12900K and have just ordered an RTX3080ti. I am still undecided on DDR4 or DDR5 - I really want to get DDR5  - around 64GB but in the UK there's nothing anywhere. Its insane - I will get the case and PSU next, hopefully by then there will be some more stock and choice of higher speeds of DDR5. 

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