Ryzen 9 5950x

[JDsports]

Hey guys could I have some help please, I have currently a Ryzen 9 3900x and a 3080 TI Aorus Xtreme paired together in my pc is it worth upgrading my cpu to a Ryzen 9 5950x and then overclocking it to 4.4Gz? Will I get more FPS or should I just overclock my currently cpu and save my money, I don’t want to upgrade and then only get a few more FPS and waste money.

Any help would be really appreciated thanks 

[adarw]

just overclock it if you want.

[JDsports]

1 minute ago, adarw said:

just overclock it if you want.

But would I get more performance if a get a 5950x? 

[adarw]

Just now, JDsports said:

But would I get more performance if a get a 5950x? 

it will but its not worth the price. at the very most i would get a 5800x instead but really it depends on what games you play.

 

[BobVonBob]

You will get more performance. You won't get significantly more performance. Look at some CPU comparisons and determine if the price difference is worth it to you.

[JDsports]

Just now, BobVonBob said:

You will get more performance. You won't get significantly more performance. Look at some CPU comparisons and determine if the price difference is worth it to you.

Thank you 

[GuiltySpark_]

What resolution do you play games at? Overall any of those over 8 core CPU's are bad buys for gaming regardless, but at least by now I hope you know that.

[JDsports]

2 minutes ago, adarw said:

it will but its not worth the price. at the very most i would get a 5800x instead but really it depends on what games you play.

 

I play a lot of open world games and stuff like red dead 2, watch dogs, cod, battlefield and I would want to be able to run the far cry 6 and battlefield 2044 without any problems at 1440p but thank you for the videos 

[JDsports]

1 minute ago, rickeo said:

What resolution do you play games at? Overall any of those over 8 core CPU's are bad buys for gaming regardless, but at least by now I hope you know that.

I play all my games at 1440p maxed out settings and ray tracing on if possible 

[GuiltySpark_]

Just now, JDsports said:

I play all my games at 1440p maxed out settings and ray tracing on if possible 

So you're aware then that the more load you put on the GPU, the less the CPU is going to be doing lessening its importance. 1440p and above, the difference the CPU is going to make (within reason) is relatively low and all the available benchmarks will show this. Per core speed is what's going to matter more and even a 5600x will outperform a 3900x in gaming, you don't need a 16 core CPU to get improvements. 

[JDsports]

1 minute ago, rickeo said:

So you're aware then that the more load you put on the GPU, the less the CPU is going to be doing lessening its importance. 1440p and above, the difference the CPU is going to make (within reason) is relatively low and all the available benchmarks will show this. Per core speed is what's going to matter more and even a 5600x will outperform a 3900x in gaming, you don't need a 16 core CPU to get improvements. 

Would it be best to just overclock my current cpu and save the money, would that give me a bit more performance or should I get a Ryzen 7 5600x instead? 

[Jorban]

6 minutes ago, JDsports said:

Would it be best to just overclock my current cpu and save the money, would that give me a bit more performance or should I get a Ryzen 7 5600x instead? 

There's no point in overclocking anything past 2000's series Ryzen.
Just run PBO and tinker with it until you get some settings that you like.
Seeing that you have no idea if you should even overclock the chip rather than buying an upgrade, I would suggest that you just set PBO to auto and let it run. Otherwise you're just going to be harming the chip

If you want to waste the money, go ahead and waste it, but my 10$ is on that you have a lack luster motherboard, cooling solution, PSU, and ram configuration.

There's no point in upgrading your CPU unless you just want more single threaded performance, and if that's the case, you should have thought out your original purchase more carefully.

What are the rest of your specs, and be detailed...

[GuiltySpark_]

5 minutes ago, JDsports said:

Would it be best to just overclock my current cpu and save the money, would that give me a bit more performance or should I get a Ryzen 7 5600x instead? 

You do what your budget and interest in new gear warrants. Though with your setup, the improvements you're going to see are very minimal watching benchmarks so it might not make sense to buy a new CPU now. Might just want to wait for Zen4/Ryzen 6000/DDR5. 

 

Just cool the 3900x well, enable PBO and enjoy it.

[JDsports]

5 minutes ago, Jorban said:

There's no point in overclocking anything past 2000's series Ryzen.
Just run PBO and tinker with it until you get some settings that you like.
Otherwise you're just going to be harming the chip, most likely.

There's no point in upgrading your CPU unless you just want more single threaded performance, and if that's the case, you should have thought out your original purchase more carefully.

What are the rest of your specs, and be detailed...

Ryzen 9 3900x

3080 TI Arous Extreme overclocked edition 

32GB of ram running at 3000MHZ it’s G.Skill TridentZ RGB but I could make it run at 3466MHZ if needed 

6TB hard drive 

500GB SSD it’s a Samsung 980 pro m.2

at the moment the worst game to run is watch dogs legion maxed out settings at 1440p with ray tracing I get 40-50 FPS and I wanted to try upgrade to get better performance in games 

if you need any more details from me just ask 

[Jorban]

5 minutes ago, JDsports said:

Ryzen 9 3900x

3080 TI Arous Extreme overclocked edition 

32GB of ram running at 3000MHZ it’s G.Skill TridentZ RGB but I could make it run at 3466MHZ if needed 

6TB hard drive 

500GB SSD it’s a Samsung 980 pro m.2

at the moment the worst game to run is watch dogs legion maxed out settings at 1440p with ray tracing I get 40-50 FPS and I wanted to try upgrade to get better performance in games 

if you need any more details from me just ask 

What CAS latency is the memory
@ both stock & at your 3466 overclock?

What is the RPM speed of your HDD?

What powersupply do you have?

Also what motherboard are you running that chip on?

[xg32]

17 minutes ago, JDsports said:

Would it be best to just overclock my current cpu and save the money, would that give me a bit more performance or should I get a Ryzen 7 5600x instead? 

the performance increase will be noticeable but really isn't worth it. Assuming you are buying a 5800x you'd be spending 25% the cost of the card for a 15% gain in some scenarios.

It's not the worst choice ive seen so it's ur call. Not the 5600x tho, swapping an older 12core for a 6 core is a can of worms on its own, i no longer recommend buying 6 cores for new builds.

There's no optimal solution to ur scenario but at the end of the day it comes down to getting a cpu upgrade or not.

 

It won't help in watchdogs at all at 40-50fps.

[JDsports]

4 minutes ago, Jorban said:

What CAS latency is the memory
@ both stock & at your 3466 overclock?

Also what motherboard are you running that chip on?

CL16, I’m running it straight out of the box, I never changed any of the ram settings, 

motherboard is ASUS rog strix X570-E gaming ATX

[Jorban]

1 minute ago, JDsports said:

CL16, I’m running it straight out of the box, I never changed any of the ram settings, 

motherboard is ASUS rog strix X570-E gaming ATX

Yea, get some better ram.
Crucial Balistics has some 3600@CL16.
Much much better than that garbage that you're running.

Those are the things that you should be thinking about before buying a new CPU
Also your motherboard is OVERKILL for that processor.

[JDsports]

6 minutes ago, xg32 said:

the performance increase will be noticeable but really isn't worth it. Assuming you are buying a 5800x you'd be spending 25% the cost of the card for a 15% gain in some scenarios.

It's not the worst choice ive seen so it's ur call. Not the 5600x tho, swapping an older 12core for a 6 core is a can of worms on its own, i no longer recommend buying 6 cores for new builds.

 

It won't help in watchdogs at all at 40-50fps.

I was thinking that surly a 5950x and 3080ti together would give a lot of FPS on games?

[Jorban]

Just now, JDsports said:

I was thinking that surly a 5950x and 3080ti together would give a lot of FPS on games?

Most likely the same that you are seeing.
You are GPU Bound 1440p / Rraytracing / Maxed settings are heavily related to the GPU.
If you want more FPS, look into safely overclockcing your GPU, and then make sure that PBO is running up to peak standards with other processors int he same class.

[JDsports]

Just now, Jorban said:

Yea, get some better ram.
Crucial Balistics has some 3600@CL16.
Much much better than that garbage that you're running.

I’m new to building PCs, what would you recommend to get 

[Jorban]

Just now, JDsports said:

I’m new to building PCs, what would you recommend to get 

Crucial Balistics 3600CL16
Or if you can go faster with a lower CL, that's even better.

[JDsports]

Just now, Jorban said:

Most likely the same that you are seeing.
You are GPU Bound.

I have been watching videos on this stuff but I’m new to all this so it’s hard to understand and I can’t make sense of it all so I wanted to ask people and get their opinions, thanks for the advice 

[GuiltySpark_]

5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

Not the 5600x tho, swapping an older 12core for a 6 core is a can of worms on its own, i no longer recommend buying 6 cores for new builds.

 

It was an example to help with the case that he seems like he needs to buy the most expensive part available for gaming. Any benchmark done since Zen 3 was released very clearly shows the IPC improvements of Ryzen 5000, any of them, 5600x included, will perform better for games which is what he does with this PC. 

 

If you're one that likes to spend money because you like gear, I'm looking at you based on that signature, this is obviously not important or relevant to you because you're going to buy the highest end model regardless of use case or efficiency. There is also nothing wrong with that either. Had a 5950x been available back in January, I'd probably have one to.. to watch YouTube.  I bought a 3090 after all.. 

 

For someone who has to ask in a thread like this who clearly isn't in the know, they should be told what certain things can and will do and the fact of the matter is, for gaming at all resolutions, a 5600x is faster than a 3900x. That cannot be disputed. 

[Jorban]

2 minutes ago, JDsports said:

I have been watching videos on this stuff but I’m new to all this so it’s hard to understand and I can’t make sense of it all so I wanted to ask people and get their opinions, thanks for the advice 

If you are new, I would highly suggest not overclocking anything manually.
That's a good way to end up with dead or less performing hardware.
Make sure your cooling is aduquate and enable PBO.