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450 watt psu with gtx 960 and an i9 10900x???

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Hi! 

Im planning to upgrade my pc, and im wondering if my corsair CV 450 watt psu can hold up for that kind off upgrade?? 

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11 minutes ago, CWALD said:

it will probably be ok unless you plan on overclocking

1. No it will not. The CV450 is designed for lower-wattage systems such as a 3400G and a 1050 Ti, not a power-hungry monster like the 10900X. On the PSU tier list it's Tier D.

 

12 minutes ago, CWALD said:

you can enter the rest of your system and see for yourself here

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

2. All PSU calculators are complete garbage because they go off TDP. TDP is not how many watts a processor consumes - the 9900K has a TDP of 95W but it consumes much more than that, reaching at least 250W under extreme load.

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13 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

1. No it will not. The CV450 is designed for lower-wattage systems such as a 3400G and a 1050 Ti, not a power-hungry monster like the 10900X. On the PSU tier list it's Tier D.

 

2. All PSU calculators are complete garbage because they go off TDP. TDP is not how many watts a processor consumes - the 9900K has a TDP of 95W but it consumes much more than that, reaching at least 250W under extreme load.

Oh, so i should upgrade that as well? 

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1 hour ago, GTXstore said:

Oh, so i should upgrade that as well? 

Yes, you should definitely upgrade your PSU.

A PSU that comes to mind is the Corsair RM650, though I don't know too much about power supplies to make a good recommendation.

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On 8/20/2021 at 11:13 PM, FakeKGB said:

Yes, you should definitely upgrade your PSU.

A PSU that comes to mind is the Corsair RM650, though I don't know too much about power supplies to make a good recommendation.

Will an corsair vx 550 do the Job? 

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1 hour ago, --SID-- said:

No, don't use a 13 year old groupregulated unit for new hardware.

Okay, im on an budget you see 400$ have any tips then? 

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On 8/22/2021 at 9:57 AM, GTXstore said:

https://www.whatpsu.com/psu/cpu/Intel-Core-i9-9900KF/gpu/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-960

 

On 8/22/2021 at 10:07 AM, FakeKGB said:

The 9900KF does not consume 95W at max load. You will need more than 450W.

Again, look at the RM650.

 

Are you using a i9-9900KF or i9-10900X?
Those are VERY different CPUs, even if they are both listed as i9 tier.

 

The i9-9900KF is listed as a "95W" chip, and the i9-10900X is "165W"

HOWEVER, if you read / watch ACTUAL reviews, they can draw WAY more than that.

For example, the 9900K can actually spike up to 200W. Because of Multi-Core Enhancement (MCE), and motherboards violating Intel specs / guidelines.

Boost the CPU higher, and for longer.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLuKqfyVyw

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On 8/22/2021 at 7:06 PM, --SID-- said:

Bad PSU recommandations.

 

Are you planning to upgrade the GPU in the future?

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16 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

 

Are you using a i9-9900KF or i9-10900X?
Those are VERY different CPUs, even if they are both listed as i9 tier.

 

The i9-9900KF is listed as a "95W" chip, and the i9-10900X is "165W"

HOWEVER, if you read / watch ACTUAL reviews, they can draw WAY more than that.

For example, the 9900K can actually spike up to 200W. Because of Multi-Core Enhancement (MCE), and motherboards violating Intel specs / guidelines.

Boost the CPU higher, and for longer.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLuKqfyVyw

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9900kf, sorry my bad in the title

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On 8/23/2021 at 2:42 PM, -rascal- said:

 

 

Are you using a i9-9900KF or i9-10900X?
Those are VERY different CPUs, even if they are both listed as i9 tier.

 

The i9-9900KF is listed as a "95W" chip, and the i9-10900X is "165W"

HOWEVER, if you read / watch ACTUAL reviews, they can draw WAY more than that.

For example, the 9900K can actually spike up to 200W. Because of Multi-Core Enhancement (MCE), and motherboards violating Intel specs / guidelines.

Boost the CPU higher, and for longer.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLuKqfyVyw

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will an: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550W

do the trick?

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Just now, GTXstore said:

will an: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550W

do the trick?

not the best unit but with gtx 960 it will be fine. if you want to upgrade to better gpu, not the best psu t pick up

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12 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

not the best unit but with gtx 960 it will be fine. if you want to upgrade to better gpu, not the best psu t pick up

i have no thinking of upgrading to any more power hungry card atleast.So with an 550w i will be good?

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6 hours ago, GTXstore said:

will an: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550W

do the trick?

 

I don't understand this...

You have a $400 USD budget for a power supply...

You are willing to spend $500+ on a i9-10900X CPU...

 

But you want to cheap out on a low quality power supply....

If the power supply dies, it can take OTHER / ALL other components with it... including CPU, motherboard, graphics card....

If you haven't been following with the Gigabyte power supply problem... Gamers' Nexus lost a RTX 3080 because of a crappy Gigabyte power supply.

A $1700+ graphics card, because of a ~$120 power supply...

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

I don't understand this...

You have a $400 USD budget for a power supply...

You are willing to spend $500+ on a i9-10900X CPU...

 

But you want to cheap out on a low quality power supply....

If the power supply dies, it can take OTHER / ALL other components with it... including CPU, motherboard, graphics card....

If you haven't been following with the Gigabyte power supply problem... Gamers' Nexus lost a RTX 3080 because of a crappy Gigabyte power supply.

A $1700+ graphics card, because of a ~$120 power supply...

 

 

 

 

Nonono, 400$ for a whole pc (except gpu and ssd/hdd) i found an i9 9900kf with 16gb ram and a mobo used for 400$ so i want a psu with in 50-60$. Then im going to sell an old pc for like 100$ so my price goes down to 350$. Thats why i want it as cheap as possible

 

My parrents don't want me to spend much money on this kinds of stuff

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