I can't cool my Ryzen 9 5900x it's frustrating

[rumble94]

Guys I need your help, I'm spending A LOT of money but I can't cool my CPU.
This are my temp at the moment:
Ambient: 28.2 °C

Here is my setup:
Case: Thermaltake The tower 900 (I used to have a Noua Vision z3, but I changed it because it was too small to cool down everything);

Radiator: 1 radiator Thermaltake CL-W191-CU00BL-A 360mm (I used to have 2 360mm slimmer chinese radiators that I changed with this one) 2 set of 3 fans in push pull on the radiator, Cooler Master MasterFan SF360R;
Fans: other 5 fans exhausting all the air out DEEP COOL CF120

Pump: EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM (I used to have an unbranded not PWM slimmer one)
Mother Board: X570 Aorus Master
CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X (I used to have an R7 3800X with same temps)

RAM: 4x8GB Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz

GPU: RTX 2070 Super Windforce (sadly air cooled because I can't find a suitable waterblock for it)

CPU Waterblock: EK Water Blocks EK-Quantum Momentum Aorus X570 Master D-RGB CPU Monoblock (I used to have a smaller Barrow CPU waterblock)
Chipset waterblock: EKWB EK-Quantum Momentum Aorus X570 Chipset Water Block (Iused to have the Aorus fan on it but when I started watercooling it, it went from 74°C to 36-39°C... It's the only part that has been affected since I started to try to cool down my system)
Liquid coolant: 1lt EK Cryofuel Clear (I used to have Corsair XL5)
Thermal Grease: Arctic MX-4 

My custom loop goes from the Pump to the Radiator, to a filter, to the CPU block, to the chipset block, to the reservoir and pump again.
 

I didn't OC, it is set to "Auto" on BIOS, and the CPU goes from 3.8GHz to 4.8GHz when it wants to and only for few moments.

Can somebody help me? I'm starting to consider buying a water chiller...

 

[Mando772004]

1 minute ago, rumble94 said:

Guys I need your help, I'm spending A LOT of money but I can't cool my CPU.
This are my temp at the moment:
Ambient: 28.2 °C

Here is my setup:
Case: Thermaltake The tower 900 (I used to have a Noua Vision z3, but I changed it because it was too small to cool down everything);

Radiator: 1 radiator Thermaltake CL-W191-CU00BL-A 360mm (I used to have 2 360mm slimmer chinese radiators that I changed with this one) 2 set of 3 fans in push pull on the radiator, Cooler Master MasterFan SF360R;
Fans: other 5 fans exhausting all the air out DEEP COOL CF120

Pump: EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM (I used to have an unbranded not PWM slimmer one)
Mother Board: X570 Aorus Master
CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X (I used to have an R7 3800X with same temps)

RAM: 4x8GB Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz

GPU: RTX 2070 Super Windforce (sadly air cooled because I can't find a suitable waterblock for it)

CPU Waterblock: EK Water Blocks EK-Quantum Momentum Aorus X570 Master D-RGB CPU Monoblock (I used to have a smaller Barrow CPU waterblock)
Chipset waterblock: EKWB EK-Quantum Momentum Aorus X570 Chipset Water Block (Iused to have the Aorus fan on it but when I started watercooling it, it went from 74°C to 36-39°C... It's the only part that has been affected since I started to try to cool down my system)
Liquid coolant: 1lt EK Cryofuel Clear (I used to have Corsair XL5)
Thermal Grease: Arctic MX-4 

My custom loop goes from the Pump to the Radiator, to a filter, to the CPU block, to the chipset block, to the reservoir and pump again.
 

I didn't OC, it is set to "Auto" on BIOS, and the CPU goes from 3.8GHz to 4.8GHz when it wants to and only for few moments.

Can somebody help me? I'm starting to consider buying a water chiller...

 

cant it just be the processor thats normally hot? i have a 5800x that idles at around 40 but when i stress test it it reaches 85-90 so im guessing an even better chip like yours should run hotter

[ki8aras]

mounting pressure maybe?? a 360mm should be able to cool a 5900x with ease (although its not thermal throttling so)

[rumble94]

Just now, InfernalClaw said:

cant it just be the processor thats normally hot? i have a 5800x that idles at around 40 but when i stress test it it reaches 85-90 so im guessing an even better chip like yours should run hotter

Well from 40°C to 67°C it's about 27°C of difference in idle... it's really too much...

[rumble94]

2 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

mounting pressure maybe?? a 360mm should be able to cool a 5900x with ease (although its not thermal throttling so)

Mounting pressure of? the CPU monoblock to the CPU?

[ki8aras]

1 minute ago, rumble94 said:

Mounting pressure of? the CPU monoblock to the CPU?

yea

[rumble94]

1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

yea

It couldn't get any tighter than that 

[Tieox]

Lapping required?

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

As long as it isnt throttling under load it should be fine

 

14 minutes ago, rumble94 said:

 I'm starting to consider buying a water chiller...

I guess if you wanted to oc 5ghz+ that would be a good solution, just not very efficient

 

If you really wanted good temps on these cpus, water cooling is not for you, you gotta go phase change

 

Though you are gonna have to build one yourself and phase change is 100% diy so no readily available parts specificaly for this application or very few parts available

 

But i guess if you want sub zero idle and load along with 5ghz this is your best option

[Freakwise]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Though you are gonna have to build one yourself and phase change is 100% diy so no readily available parts specificaly for this application or very few parts available

Not to mention condensation is a huge problem

[ki8aras]

i think hes just looking to decrease his idle temps from 70c

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Ill consider phase change myself but only for screwing around with testbenches and xocing

 

Cause these phase change systems consume alot of power

 

I reckon you can make a phase change system out of an ac unit, aka a literal prebuilt phase change system xD

 

To deal with condensation you need art eraser or something like that and cover your cpu socket area and behind the cpu socket

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, ki8aras said:

i think hes just looking to decrease his idle temps from 70c

Might aswell reduce them to -69c xD

[rumble94]

I don't want sub zero temps, I would be delighted if I reached temperatures of 30/40 °C in idle and 60/70 °C under load.

This is what I found for the water chiller, but is really expensive and maybe it's also too much to reach my ideal temperatures.

https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/water-chillers/koolance-exc-450-ultra-compact-450w-recirculating-liquid-chiller-exc-450.html

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, rumble94 said:

I don't want sub zero temps, I would be delighted if I reached temperatures of 30/40 °C in idle and 60/70 °C under load.

This is what I found for the water chiller, but is really expensive and maybe it's also too much to reach my ideal temperatures.

https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/water-chillers/koolance-exc-450-ultra-compact-450w-recirculating-liquid-chiller-exc-450.html

Please don't buy a chiller. Something is not working correctly in your system, that is the problem.

 

The pump might not be working. Are the tubes warm? Does your airflow setup avoid turbulence?

[rumble94]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Please don't buy a chiller. Something is not working correctly in your system, that is the problem.

 

The pump might not be working. Are the tubes warm? Does your airflow setup avoid turbulence?

The tubes aren't warm, I don't think I have something to stop turbulence. The pump is always spinning at 100% (You can see it under label "Chassis 5" spinning at around 4800RPM) 
 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, rumble94 said:

The tubes aren't warm,

They should be if they are pulling the hot water away from your CPU, should they not? Sounds like you might have a flow problem in your loop

[rumble94]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

They should be if they are pulling the hot water away from your CPU, should they not? Sounds like you might have a flow problem in your loop

I have two temperature sensors included with the motherboard, would I risk anything if I immersed them in the liquid?
The tubes are for sure colder than my hand.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, rumble94 said:

I have two temperature sensors included with the motherboard, would I risk anything if I immersed them in the liquid?
The tubes are for sure colder than my hand.

I don't know what kind of probes they are but I think it would be fine. It would certainly be useful to find out if the coolant is basically at ambient temperature.

[rumble94]

18 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

I don't know what kind of probes they are but I think it would be fine. It would certainly be useful to find out if the coolant is basically at ambient temperature.

The hottest temp it raises it's constant 33 °C

Edited July 3, 2021 by rumble94

[Fasauceome]

40 minutes ago, rumble94 said:

The hottest temp it raises it's constant 33 °C

What part of the loop did you measure?

[rumble94]

19 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

What part of the loop did you measure?

I put the sensor inside the reservoir, the loop goes:

reservoir, pump, radiator, filter, tap, cpu block, chipset block, and goes back to the reservoir.

So the water hits the cpu, then the chipset and goes to the reservoir.

[freeagent]

2 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

cant it just be the processor thats normally hot? i have a 5800x that idles at around 40 but when i stress test it it reaches 85-90

It could.. but probably not since mine idles down to under 30c with a heatsink.

[rumble94]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

It could.. but probably not since mine idles down to under 30c with a heatsink.

How do you cool it down???

[freeagent]

Just now, rumble94 said:

How do you cool it down???

With  heatsink and some air

 

Do you have enough thermal paste on? Thin is good but too thin is bad.

 

Also the ambient temperature in my basement is 21c right now so that helps..