5800x hot hot hot

[Vacras]

1 hour ago, dustin85841 said:

I started a 10 negative ppt 120, TDC 75, EDC 130. I ran three and -10 -20 -30. I noticed better cinebench score on mult at -30 but It still hit 90c. Next I tried PPT 115, TDC 100, EDC 80, started a -10,-20,-30. Crashed on -30, and -20 was unstable. And still hit 85c. There's probably some more performance in the last setting to fine tune but It wasn't going the way I wanted temp wise. The 2070s run 30c 31c. In Games the gpu runs 45c-50c in Escape from Tarkov

I set the limits to 110 - 85 - 110 and the offset to -25 on mine with an air cooler and got temps down quite significantly hitting ~80C on Cinebench.

[Daethz]

If mounting the radiator as intake helps a lot, it means your regular intake is not providing enough air.

Or the fans on the radiator are so weak they aren't pulling the air from your intake.

 

I have noticed a lot of these fans on the market, can barely be called fans, they can't move anything.

 

Besides upgrading all of your case fans and buying better thermal paste like kryonaut, and double checking to make sure the front fans are actually the right direction, providing intake, the back fan exhaust and the radiator most likely exhaust on the top.

& When I say upgrade fans I also mean the radiator fans.

 

It took a lot of improvements for me to cool down my 5950x after I got it in a prebuilt with a kraken x73 aio(replaced with DH15), but I have her maxing out at 80c now, almost never actually reaching 80c even with her vcore sitting in the upper 1.4's and core clocks reaching 5ghz

[Daethz]

15 minutes ago, Vacras said:

I set the limits to 110 - 85 - 110 and the offset to -25 on mine with an air cooler and got temps down quite significantly hitting ~80C on Cinebench.

If you have to resort to undervolting all it means is your cooling simply isn't adequate

(At least from defaults/not ocing)

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, Daethz said:

If you have to resort to undervolting all it means is your cooling simply isn't adequate

(At least from defaults/not ocing)

Did they mention what kind of case we were talking about here? If it's one of those closed front cases, it is gonna suck either way.

[dustin85841]

1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I like high amp fans capable of moving air. Think mine are 1.6a at 150cfm. 

That's a good idea too. The only fan I bought was still under 100 cfm. I mite just order 7 140mm fans. What kind of fans you got?

[Daethz]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Did they mention what kind of case we were talking about here? If it's one of those closed front cases, it is gonna suck either way.

"phantek p500a drgb"

[Daethz]

20 minutes ago, dustin85841 said:

That's a good idea too. The only fan I bought was still under 100 cfm. I mite just order 7 140mm fans. What kind of fans you got?

Noctuas are amazing.

 

If you don't mind aesthetics the NF-A12x25's are the best 120mm fan on the market for combined usage, great for radiators and case fans.

(thermaltake makes a cheaper ripoff of this fan that actually comes in black called the toughfan12 & a 140mm version the toughfan14)

 

the regular Noctua A14's (Probably the best 140mm case airflow fan on the market), they also come in black "chromax"

As for RGB models, idk, I hear the corsair maglev fans are really noisy but do blow a good amount of air, obviously not as much as noctua

 

I wouldn't suggest going with 3000rpm industrial fans or anything, your computer will be too noisy to use like a normal person.

[Mister Woof]

Honestly, from all the anecdotal data I've seen on these 5800x chips, it seems they just run hot. I wouldn't call making the rad on it intake a failure, as it's one way to address this cpu's obvious thermal density issue.

 

For example in my case, given GPU temperatures aren't drastically affected by making the AIO intake, it means overall case airflow isn't the issue so much as the chip I'm trying to cool is just that difficult to cool, and outside factors (GPU) make cooling as exhaust less efficient.

 

Bottom line, if the thing you want to cool is having a hard time being cooled, it's better for it to be intake than exhaust.

[Daethz]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

Honestly, from all the anecdotal data I've seen on these 5800x chips, it seems they just run hot. I wouldn't call making the rad on it intake a failure, as it's one way to address this cpu's obvious thermal density issue.

Some of these ryzens are just really difficult to cool.

On the bright side, constantly tooling with my 5950x was educational.

Personally I think I have achieved the point where more airflow does not benefit me, the NH15 can't transfer the heat fast enough, that's where my bottleneck is rn.

 

From what I have seen with most AIO's is the included fans are usually garbage compared to what you Can get.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Daethz said:

Some of these ryzens are just really difficult to cool.

On the bright side, constantly tooling with my 5950x was educational.

Personally I think I have achieved the point where more airflow does not benefit me, the NH15 can't transfer the heat fast enough, that's where my bottleneck is rn.

 

From what I have seen with most AIO's is the included fans are usually garbage compared to what you Can get.

I had that experience with EVGA - the included fans are trash. The ML120 I got on the Corsair I'm using are far superior, but still there's room for improvement.

 

Biggest problem I have is exhausting this 360w of GPU heat - I've managed to tame the beast (90c or lower on VRAM) but this is just how hot these dumb things are.

[Daethz]

6 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I had that experience with EVGA - the included fans are trash. The ML120 I got on the Corsair I'm using are far superior, but still there's room for improvement.

 

Biggest problem I have is exhausting this 360w of GPU heat.

Besides upping your airflow probably with more fans (larger case) and going full noctua there probably is no way to do it

other than advanced stuff like dismantling your gpu and modding it with new thermal pads

 

Having 6 of these NF-A12x25's flowing into my case is more air than I think the cpu or gpu could ever use.

That said my memory still reaches 88c on the 3080ftw3, the gpu ittself rarely goes above the lower 70c's

 

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Daethz said:

Besides upping your airflow probably with more fans (larger case) and going full noctua there probably is no way to do it

other than advanced stuff like dismantling your gpu and modding it with new thermal pads

 

It's fine as it is - 90c on the VRAM is still within spec and seemingly appropriate. I'm not concerned. 

 

I have everything set to a relatively silent fan profile, and even as quiet as it is, temperatures are well under control.

 

360 as intake works fine, and cooled a lot better than the Deep Ass 3 which was just soaking up GPU heat.

[freeagent]

120x38s are awesome for moving lots of air quickly. They ground pound most Noctua fans, and many others. I do have 2x iPPC 3000s and they are pretty intense.. 

[Daethz]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

120x38s are awesome for moving lots of air quickly. They ground pound most Noctua fans, and many others. I do have 2x iPPC 3000s and they are pretty intense.. 

yeah but 3000rpm industrial noctuas also sound like your sitting next to a jet engine at max throttle

Decking a case out in A14's or A12x25's should be more than enough airflow.

[freeagent]

Dude my furnace is 8 feet behind me in the basement. The furnace blows the ac and when those fans get up and go they drown out all of my fans and come close to beating the furnace out for noise lol.. like I said they are a little intense

[Mister Woof]

Hey if you got tinnitus then it's all good

[freeagent]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Hey if you got tinnitus then it's all good

What?

 

Damn ears are ringing can’t hear ****!

[Daethz]

Anyways in my research I also learned the arctic p12 and p14's are really good for the price.

If you can't stomach the noctua prices.

But a high end build needs high end fans 

[dustin85841]

The 140 Pure Wings 2 fan I bought is 94cfm but the 3 140mm fans that came with the case are 84cfm and the 2 140mm fans that comes on the LIquid F II is 72cfm. I'm going to change the exhaust on the liquid Freezer to intake and see what does. We can go from there. Thanks guys

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, dustin85841 said:

That's a good idea too. The only fan I bought was still under 100 cfm. I mite just order 7 140mm fans. What kind of fans you got?

I got them from OCN some years back now. Dude was making custom whips....

But on new egg, I did find them. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newegg.com/amp/p/1YF-003V-00218

[Daethz]

5 minutes ago, dustin85841 said:

The 140 Pure Wings 2 fan I bought is 94cfm but the 3 140mm fans that came with the case are 84cfm and the 2 140mm fans that comes on the LIquid F II is 72cfm. I'm going to change the exhaust on the liquid Freezer to intake and see what does. We can go from there. Thanks guys

CFM isn't everything, static pressure matters the more resistance there is.

A dust filter = some resistance

A radiator = tremendous resistance

Fan brands will also usually show you the "high static pressure" levels along with cfm

 

Theoretically you want high static pressure fans on your radiator and maximum cfm on your case

 

I do know the silentwings are rated one of the best fans too

[freeagent]

I was going to buy a few of those quiet 12v low 30s db 85cfm with 6mm of pressure Deltas for about that price. I did something else with the money though.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, freeagent said:

I was going to buy a few of those quiet 12v low 30s db 85cfm with 6mm of pressure Deltas for about that price. I did something else with the money though.

I'm only scared of my Delta fans. And if a fan scares my fingers, then I need to buy more of them lol

[CryingWimp]

88c in eco mode at 87watts mean something is either broken or improperly installed. If you are certain everything is installed correctly and the cooler worked perfectly up until the day you swapped it to the new CPU, return the CPU.

 

Anyone saying to try "this or that" is talking out their ***. 88c at 87 watts is soo far gone that it CAN'T be caused by fan placement, whether its exhaust or intake etc etc. 88c at 87 watts is 100% broken or totally improperly installed.

 

My 5950x only approaches 90c with my Arctic Freezer ii 280mm in a single R23 run if I heavily OC it to over 240+ watts. There is no way on earth a 5800x should hit 88c at 87watts unless something is completely and utterly broken or wildly improperly installed.

 

Return your CPU if the cooler is installed properly. Its true the 5800x runs hot, 90c stock settings with the best AIO money can buy though means something is wrong this in NOT normal.

 

PEOPLE HE IS HITTING 88C AT ONLY 87WATTS IN ECO MODE - STOP TELLING HIM ITS BECAUSE OF FAN PLACEMENT, SOMETHING IS BROKEN.

 

[Npiet1]

34 minutes ago, CryingWimp said:

My 5950x only hits 90c with my Arctic Freezer ii 280mm in a single R23 run if I heavily OC it to over 230+ watts. There is no way on earth a 5800x should hit 88c at 87watts unless something is completely and utterly broken or wildly improperly installed.

 

Return your CPU if the cooler is installed properly. Its true the 5800x runs hot, 90c stock settings with the best AIO money can buy though means something is wrong this in NOT normal.

 

PEOPLE HE IS HITTING 88C AT ONLY 87WATTS IN ECO MODE - STOP TELLING HIM ITS BECAUSE OF FAN PLACEMENT, SOMETHING IS BROKEN.

 

You cannot compare the 5950x which has 3 dies to a 5800x which only has 2. 90'c in stock settings is normal. There's heaps of people with that temp during bench mark. AMD even said it's normal. It's the way the cheap runs. The Chip itself spikes instantly to 85-90'c underload, no amount of cooling will displace the heat from the chip itself.

 

OP: Here's the settings I changed to achieve my 65'c.I set the cores to manually to 4.7ghz. Then changed the DIGI+ VRM. I've got 12pins from my CPU's though (ASUS prime 570 pro.

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