Binning CPU on Stock Cooler

[Hank_Tech]

Hey guys,

So I'm getting the CPU and motherboard (i7 4770k and GA Z87 HD3) for my new build in the next couple of days, and I was wondering what would be a good way about binning my CPU would be. I will only have the stock cooler, but I saw online that some people were able to get their chips up to 4.6Ghz with the stock cooler. I have never over clocked before, but I know some of the basic things like multiplier, cache ratio, voltage, and some of the RAM settings. So what would be a safe setting to test the quality of CPU that I get if I only have the stock cooler?

[Izaya Orihara]

What? Binning your own CPU? 

[Lays]

I've never seen anyone get anything above like 200-300 mhz over stock with a stock cooler lol

[TyagoDani]

what?

[tryphaa]

problem 1: stock cooler

 

problem 2: you cant bin your own cpu.

[Freaky_spider]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning

 

wait, your in intels lab and you gonna get the best binned CPU they have?

 

i think you confused overclocking and binning.

[abhay6547]

I'm pretty sure he means overclock and with a stock cooler, stay at the same voltage and try bumping up the multiplier by one or two. Increasing the voltage would mean more power and heat and unless you have adequate cooling, which you don't at the moment, isn't recommended.

[WoodenMarker]

Just oc as usual but go with less extreme settings than those in tutorials with more appropriate cooling. The only difference between a stock and aftermarket cooler will be the cooling/temps.

[Cwazywazy]

Just shell out a bit of money for something like a Hyper 212 Evo.

[bamerx98]

Hey guys,

So I'm getting the CPU and motherboard (i7 4770k and GA Z87 HD3) for my new build in the next couple of days, and I was wondering what would be a good way about binning my CPU would be. I will only have the stock cooler, but I saw online that some people were able to get their chips up to 4.6Ghz with the stock cooler. I have never over clocked before, but I know some of the basic things like multiplier, cache ratio, voltage, and some of the RAM settings. So what would be a safe setting to test the quality of CPU that I get if I only have the stock cooler?

I would not suggest ever overclocking on the stock cooler you just don't have enough cooling power on the intel stock cooler and your most likely going to cause damage to your CPU just don't overclock on the stock cooler at least save up a few bucks and get something like a good big be quiet cooler or a hyper 212 

[Hank_Tech]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning

 

wait, your in intels lab and you gonna get the best binned CPU they have?

 

i think you confused overclocking and binning.

 

 

problem 1: stock cooler

 

problem 2: you cant bin your own cpu.

 

 

what?

 

 

What? Binning your own CPU? 

Yeah I think I messed that term up a little bit... Heard it used in this way on some videos but I guess I heard wrong or they used it wrong. My bad. What i mean is how can I tell what quality of CPU did I get for overclocing.

[harrynowl]

He means he will try figure out how capable his chip is using the stock cooler to get an indication of what level of bin it is. Generally less voltage/moar mhz achievable on the same cooling = better bin so it is in theory feasible.

 

I think you'd be better to say "Finding out level of bin" rather than binning yourself, only intel can validate

[Freaky_spider]

Yeah I think I messed that term up a little bit... Heard it used in this way on some videos but I guess I heard wrong or they used it wrong. My bad. What i mean is how can I tell what quality of CPU did I get for overclocing.

only way to see that is equally OC'ing it

 

i would strongly suggest an aftermarket cooler, you wont be able to OC as high with a stock one, it will also sound like a jet taking of

 

the person you watched doesnt know what hes talking about if he messes up binning and overclocking.

[Hank_Tech]

He means he will try figure out how capable his chip is using the stock cooler to get an indication of what level of bin it is. Generally less voltage/moar mhz achievable on the same cooling = better bin so it is in theory feasible.

 

I think you'd be better to say "Finding out level of bin" rather than binning yourself, only intel can validate

Yep thats what I'm talking about. Sorry for my mixup, this will be my first over clock so I'm still new to all the terms. So you're saying keep the voltage the same and just bump up the multiplier and see if it remains stable?

[Hank_Tech]

only way to see that is equally OC'ing it

 

i would strongly suggest an aftermarket cooler, you wont be able to OC as high with a stock one, it will also sound like a jet taking of

 

the person you watched doesnt know what hes talking about if he messes up binning and overclocking.

I will have to go back and watch because I either misunderstood them or they were wrong. I probably just heard wrong because I am trying to learn about over clocking as this will be my first OC capable build.

[fringie]

I think 4.6Ghz with the stock cooler is impossible (for a stable OC anyways). 4.6 Ghz on a good air cooler is quite a nice over clock. I have a h80 which is on par with high end air coolers and I'm using an ivy bridge CPU which is known to overclock better than haswell (I also think I have a pretty average chip) and 4.6Ghz is a pretty decent OC with the h80. 

[Faa]

The thread title made me think of buying 50 i5's and keeping the best overclocker

[harrynowl]

Yep thats what I'm talking about. Sorry for my mixup, this will be my first over clock so I'm still new to all the terms. So you're saying keep the voltage the same and just bump up the multiplier and see if it remains stable?

Do exactly that, if you get quite far you should invest in better cooling as you have a good chip. If not... then maybe not

[fringie]

The thread title made me think of buying 50 i5's and keeping the best overclocker

That's not practical as lets say you resell them for £20 loss/chip then your going to be £1000 down for an i5. Many people believe that i7's/xeons use higher binned silicon and i3's/atoms etc use lowered binned silicon.

[WoodenMarker]

I would not suggest ever overclocking on the stock cooler you just don't have enough cooling power on the intel stock cooler and your most likely going to cause damage to your CPU just don't overclock on the stock cooler

Overclocking on the stock cooler is totally doable especially if your case has good airflow. It's a good way to figure out whether or not it'd be worth it to get a nice aftermarket cooler.

Yep thats what I'm talking about. Sorry for my mixup, this will be my first over clock so I'm still new to all the terms. So you're saying keep the voltage the same and just bump up the multiplier and see if it remains stable?

Keep in mind stick voltage is not the same as stock settings. Default settings are probably at auto. Use cpu-z to figure out what your voltage is at and set your voltage to that.

[Hank_Tech]

I think 4.6Ghz with the stock cooler is impossible (for a stable OC anyways). 4.6 Ghz on a good air cooler is quite a nice over clock. I have a h80 which is on par with high end air coolers and I'm using an ivy bridge CPU which is known to overclock better than haswell (I also think I have a pretty average chip) and 4.6Ghz is a pretty decent OC with the h80. 

I am going to be getting a nice cooler anyways. Its just that now after buying my parts, I have all of 10 dollars. So I will need to wait a bit before I can buy a nicer cooler. I was looking at the swiftech h220, so I don't intend on keeping this stock cooler. I just wanted to see if there is a way I can tell how good of a chip mine is when I get it.

[fringie]

I am going to be getting a nice cooler anyways. Its just that now after buying my parts, I have all of 10 dollars. So I will need to wait a bit before I can buy a nicer cooler. I was looking at the swiftech h220, so I don't intend on keeping this stock cooler. I just wanted to see if there is a way I can tell how good of a chip mine is when I get it.

Well, you could see if you can get 4.1/4.2Ghz on the stock cooler? I'd think of that as a good chip, I remember just messing around with my chip before I got an AIO. My ivy was stable at 4.2Ghz max (on default vcore) was around the early 90s.

[VGuillV]

You're getting a 4770k and not OCing it? 

 

Get a 4770 then. 

[Hank_Tech]

You're getting a 4770k and not OCing it? 

 

Get a 4770 then. 

Already bought the 4770k and yes I will be OCing it.

[VGuillV]

Already bought the 4770k and yes I will be OCing it.

Ah. I mean... how much do you wanna OC it, the stock fan won't get you far unless you're in the top 5% of 4770k's...