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1 minute ago, KeyperOS said:

more than 50% off. 140€.

its fairly old afaik, id honestly spend it on a good 850 multirail unit. 

1 minute ago, KeyperOS said:

A new one at about 800W would be more than 200 (maybe 250 for Gold).

thats not typical eurozone pricing. 

 

Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (ERF850EWT) - PCPartPicker

MSI 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (MPG A850GF) - PCPartPicker

BitFenix Whisper M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (BP-WG850UMAG-7FM) - PCPartPicker

 

all fairly similar, very good units

I am building a new Ryzen 5800x system in a Gigabyte x570 Master (r1.2).
The motherboard has two CPU 8-pin (EPS) power inputs.

 

A colleague is selling my his  (2nd hand) Enermax Maxrevo 1350W Gold Plus (88~93 efficiency) PSU:
https://www.enermax.com/en/products/maxrevo-1350w

 

However it *only* has a single CPU 8-pin connector. I read that the 5800x can draw upwards of 360~380W under full load (and with power draw limits disabled, which this motherboard supports).

 

Will a single 8-pin be sufficient? I read somewhere that it is easier on the VRMs if I were to use two.

Will a dual-molex-to-a-single-EPS connector work as a second EPS?

Am I being paranoid?

 

My 8-year-old Silverstone ST1000-G Evolution (1000W Gold) has two CPU connectors.

 

Please share your thoughts.

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3 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

Will a single 8-pin be sufficient?

Yes. unless you do some crazy LN2 overclock 8-pin is enough

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2 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

I am building a new Ryzen 5800x system in a Gigabyte x570 Master (r1.2).

why?

 

3 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

I read that the 5800x can draw upwards of 360~380W under full load

 This is not Intel.

That cpu uses around 110w stock and around 150w when overclocked.

4 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

Will a single 8-pin be sufficient?

Yes.

4 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

I read somewhere that it is easier on the VRMs if I were to use two.

That is not true.
 

 

4 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

Will a dual-molex-to-a-single-EPS connector work as a second EPS?

no

4 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

Am I being paranoid?

yes

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

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6 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

I read that the 5800x can draw upwards of 360~380W under full load (and with power draw limits disabled, which this motherboard supports).

Hmm.... I wonder where you read this information, because this is completely nonsense.

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3 minutes ago, boghubodaghi said:

Hmm.... I wonder where you read this information, because this is completely nonsense.

that is more like total system power usage with rtx 3070 or some

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Test Rig.

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Just Sold

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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24 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

why?

Why what? Why 5800x?

 

I can't find the 300W again but I did find this:

image.png.5b5f4d183be5597ff0520e1f26561ae3.png

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43 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

I read that the 5800x can draw upwards of 360~380W under full load (and with power draw limits disabled, which this motherboard supports).

you are likely reading total system power consumption. In scenarios outside of LN2 overclocking, it is not gonna draw anywhere near that. 

 

Also a single 8-pin EPS would be fine with that powerdraw. 

 

45 minutes ago, KeyperOS said:

A colleague is selling my his  (2nd hand) Enermax Maxrevo 1350W Gold Plus (88~93 efficiency) PSU:
https://www.enermax.com/en/products/maxrevo-1350w

while its a good PSU, id encourage getting a new good unit instead. idk how much he is asking for that unit. 

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5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

while its a good PSU, id encourage getting a new good unit instead. idk how much he is asking for that unit. 

more than 50% off. 140€.

And I know that he didn't use it very much (but when he did it was in SLI).

A new one at about 800W would be more than 200 (maybe 250 for Gold Platinum).

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1 minute ago, KeyperOS said:

more than 50% off. 140€.

its fairly old afaik, id honestly spend it on a good 850 multirail unit. 

1 minute ago, KeyperOS said:

A new one at about 800W would be more than 200 (maybe 250 for Gold).

thats not typical eurozone pricing. 

 

Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (ERF850EWT) - PCPartPicker

MSI 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (MPG A850GF) - PCPartPicker

BitFenix Whisper M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (BP-WG850UMAG-7FM) - PCPartPicker

 

all fairly similar, very good units

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3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

thats not typical eurozone pricing.

I did a VERY quick search, the one I saw was the
Thermaltake Toughpower PF1 ARGB 850W Full Modular 80 Plus Platinum at 267,43 €.

But I agree, if I can find one at a price close to it then that might be better.

 

Thank you very much!

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Just now, KeyperOS said:

Thermaltake Toughpower PF1 ARGB 850W Full Modular 80 Plus Platinum at 267,43 €.

i wouldnt get that one. its worse than the GF1 aswell as the other 3 units i posted. 

 

if you can order from Germany, the Revolution DF is a very tempting offer

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If this is the exact one he's got:
According to this it should have a 24 pin ATX,  8 pin AND 8+4 pin CPU power connectors.
NeweggBusiness - Enermax MaxREVO 1350W 80+ Gold Full Modular Power Supply

Check the specs.
Since it's fully modular, if this is indeed the one he has and your friend has this extra CPU power connector that would solve any worrries over it.
Maybe you could find one if he doesn't have or can't find it, should you decide to get it anyway.

It's not a requirement as said with all the above posts but would be nice to have everything it's supposed to have.

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1 hour ago, KeyperOS said:

Why what? Why 5800x?

 

I can't find the 300W again but I did find this:

image.png.5b5f4d183be5597ff0520e1f26561ae3.png

This graph is from guru3d review and it's entire pc power figure. "We show energy consumption based on the entire PC (motherboard / processor / graphics card / memory / SSD). This number depends and will vary per motherboard (added ICs / controllers / wifi / Bluetooth) and PSU (efficiency). Keep in mind that we measure the ENTIRE PC, not just the processor's power consumption. Your average PC can differ from our numbers if you add optical drives, HDDs, soundcards etc. "

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_5800x_review,6.html

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3 hours ago, KeyperOS said:

Why what?

why x570 aorus master? That is very overkill motherboard. msi b550 A-Pro would suffice. 

or Asus x570-P or tuf too.

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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1 hour ago, SavageNeo said:

why x570 aorus master? That is very overkill motherboard. msi b550 A-Pro would suffice. 

or Asus x570-P or tuf too.

If all I wanted was the platform they you might have been right.

But it has the features I want (and more, admittedly they threw the kitchen sink in it) and at 325€ I felt that the price was good as well.

 

I know Linus hates the F-bomb (no, not that!) but yeah, if I can justify it I do prefer Future(gasp!)Proofing features like 2.5G LAN (plus a second 1G), USB 3.2, Wifi 6, the ability to add Thunderbolt 3 etc...

 

Plus, I do like to have the option of eventually upgrading to a 5900x / 5950x once they have eventually fallen in price.

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