5600X or i5 11600k?

[Opica15]

First time building my own pc. i5 costs 290eur and ryzen is 370(cooler included) in my country. Would also appreciate some help with motherbord selection. For gpu i will use my current 1070ti, at least until the prices become reasonable again.

Thanks for your help.

[Mister Woof]

Performance is similar with the 5600x edging out on top, but once you factor in the cost of cooling, the 11600k costs about the same. 

 

That said I'd probably get an aftermarket cooler for the 5600x, too.

[maartendc]

The i5 actually beats the 5600X narrowly in games, so if you are gaming only, get the i5.

 

In productivity the difference is again small, but the 5600X is slightly better it seems.

 

If you have to get a new motherboard anyway, get the i5 I guess. For the price difference, it is the better buy. But the 11600K runs hot, so getting a good cooler for it kind of negates the price difference. If you get a decent cooler around 50 EUR, you'd still end up cheaper with the i5.

 

You'd need a Z motherboard to overclock the 11600K, while the 5600X you can overclock with any B450 / B550 motherboard. Perhaps look at motherboard pricing as well to make your choice.

 

B550 motherboards seem about 20-25 EUR cheaper than Z490. So price seems almost identical factoring in CPU+cooler+Motherboard.

 

 

[Downkey]

8 minutes ago, Opica15 said:

First time building my own pc. i5 costs 290eur and ryzen is 370(cooler included) in my country. Would also appreciate some help with motherbord selection. For gpu i will use my current 1070ti, at least until the prices become reasonable again.

Thanks for your help.

if you are playing games like CS or Valorant, then the 5600x is the obvious choice here. If you are playing AAA titles or less demanding esports titles, just go with whatever is cheaper (including mobo and cooler prices)

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, Downkey said:

if you are playing games like CS or Valorant, then the 5600x is the obvious choice here. If you are playing AAA titles or less demanding esports titles, just go with whatever is cheaper (including mobo and cooler prices)

In this case a 11400F + Deepcool Gammaxx400 + B560 + 16GB 3600 DDR4 makes the most sense.

[SupaKomputa]

You can get a cheap board for 5600x, B450 motherboards are discounted and it will work just as good.

Get Hyper 212 or gammax 400 for either cpu, and you're golden.

[dean_5234]

4 minutes ago, maartendc said:

The i5 actually beats the 5600X narrowly in games, so if you are gaming only, get the i5.

 

Its close, but the 5600X usually edges out the 11600k. Still, with these prices he should get the 11600k

 

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

In this case a 11400F + Deepcool Gammaxx400 + B560 + 16GB 3600 DDR4 makes the most sense.

Agreed

 

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

You can get a cheap board for 5600x, B450 motherboards are discounted and it will work just as good.

Get Hyper 212 or gammax 400 for either cpu, and you're golden.

One problem with this is many B450 motherboard ship with non updated BIOS for 5th gen

[Opica15]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

In this case a 11400F + Deepcool Gammaxx400 + B560 + 16GB 3600 DDR4 makes the most sense.

What is the difference between 11400f and 11600k anyway besides overclocking?

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Opica15 said:

What is the difference between 11400f and 11600k anyway besides overclocking?

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i5_11400f_processor_review,26.html

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2232-intel-core-i5-11400f/

 

besides CPU OC, small performance and worse iGPU

 

Can still run fast memory with it on the right motherboards.

[Jurrunio]

How much do boards for the Intel CPU cost? Last time I checked, Z590 is really expensive (comparable to X570 motheboards) and even B560 (no CPU core OC support, I'm targeting 11400/F here) costs more than B550 boards. Motherboard prices could change the whole argument.

[SupaKomputa]

The difference is thermal output due higher clock and boost speed.

Everything else is the same.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

How much do boards for the Intel CPU cost? Last time I checked, Z590 is really expensive (comparable to X570 motheboards) and even B560 (no CPU core OC support, I'm targeting 11400/F here) costs more than B550 boards. Motherboard prices could change the whole argument.

Depends on location I guess. Cheapest B560s in the States are around $110 or so, and with a locked i5 it's not really going to matter too much. Decent boards are around $120-150. For a 5600x, I'd probably go about the same price for a B550.

[FRD]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

How much do boards for the Intel CPU cost? Last time I checked, Z590 is really expensive (comparable to X570 motheboards) and even B560 (no CPU core OC support, I'm targeting 11400/F here) costs more than B550 boards. Motherboard prices could change the whole argument.

Checked the European prices. B560 boards can be had from 75 Euros, Z590 starts at 150 Euros and B550 boards go for at least 65 Euros. Oh, and X570 boards start at 140 Euros. This is just an average though, could be totally different in another European country (I'm not sure where op is located).

On topic. I'd say go for the Ryzen 5 5600X, even though 370 Euros is a markup of around 60 Euros of MSRP.

[Bombastinator]

It sounds like this one is just real real close. Complete systems might need to be considered for best bang/buck.  It used to be considerations like this got determined in AMD’s favor because am4 had more life in it than the intel alternative. The thing is ryzen3 is the final iteration for am4 so that advantage doesn’t exist currently.   If both systems were selling at msrp AMD would still win bang/buck.  The problem is they’re not.

[maartendc]

16 hours ago, Opica15 said:

What is the difference between 11400f and 11600k anyway besides overclocking?

 

16 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i5_11400f_processor_review,26.html

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2232-intel-core-i5-11400f/

 

besides CPU OC, small performance and worse iGPU

 

Can still run fast memory with it on the right motherboards.

It seems like the 11400F is about 100 EUR cheaper, around 170 EUR. I would say that is the better buy.

 

If you don't care about OC'ing or iGPU performance, and just gaming... The difference in gaming performance is like 5%, not much at all. 11400F is like less than half the price of the 5600X, so best value no doubt!

 

If you are talking 11600K vs 5600X it seems they are equal, but 5600X uses less power, so I would give it the win, all else being equal.

[Bombastinator]

3 hours ago, maartendc said:

 

It seems like the 11400F is about 100 EUR cheaper, around 170 EUR. I would say that is the better buy.

 

If you don't care about OC'ing or iGPU performance, and just gaming... The difference in gaming performance is like 5%, not much at all. 11400F is like less than half the price of the 5600X, so best value no doubt!

 

If you are talking 11600K vs 5600X it seems they are equal, but 5600X uses less power, so I would give it the win, all else being equal.

10400f is a better competitor for a 3600x than a 5600x.  Could still be enough though.  There is an argument that as long as a cpu can beat a hotted up 2700 with extra fast memory one is basically good gaming wise. The impression I get is people are buying the 11700k instead to get the Xe because even though the 8/16 way way outclasses the Xe, it’s the only gpu that isn’t way way above msrp right now.  11700k isn’t a bad chip and one can always throw a decent gpu into the box when sanity returns to the market.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Bombastinator

[Princess Luna]

If all you'll do is game with a 1070 Ti just get an i5 10400F for cheaper than all alternatives, it'll still max out your GPU any ways lol

[Bombastinator]

4 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

If all you'll do is game with a 1070 Ti just get an i5 10400F for cheaper than all alternatives, it'll still max out your GPU any ways lol

Is it though?  Might be I guess.  I’m not seeing a euros price for a 3600