9pin usb port

[InfinityVoidX]

Hi there

I have a hp 8433 motherbord and i just cant find the 9 pin usb port. But i want to add a new pcie bluetooth card to my pc.

Can someone pls tell me that there is a solution!

[SignatureSigner]

Might not have one.

You you specify on what card you have?

[emosun]

that board doesn't have a 9 pin usb header on it

[InfinityVoidX]

3 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

Might not have one.

You you specify on what card you have?

wdym what card??

 

[SignatureSigner]

Just now, InfinityVoidX said:

wdym what card??

 

nvm  @emosun already confirmed my hypothesys. That board doesn't have that connector.

[dilpickle]

You can add a PCI-E bluetooth card if you want. I'm not sure what that has to do with a USB port.

[InfinityVoidX]

Just now, dilpickle said:

You can add a PCI-E bluetooth card if you want. I'm not sure what that has to do with a USB port.

i think its for power

[dilpickle]

Just now, InfinityVoidX said:

i think its for power

What card are you looking at.

[BondiBlue]

4 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

You can add a PCI-E bluetooth card if you want. I'm not sure what that has to do with a USB port.

Most PCIe cards with Bluetooth connect through USB. That's why OP needs a USB header.

[InfinityVoidX]

TP-Link+Archer+TX3000E is what amazon says

[dilpickle]

3 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

Most PCIe cards with Bluetooth connect through USB. That's why OP needs a USB header.

Yeah I just found that out. In that case just get a USB adapter like this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/ZEXMTE-Bluetooth-Receiver-Transfer-Wireless/dp/B0775YF36R

[tdkid]

the USB ports will be used for power and a few other functions if the card doesnt come with a connector on it for plugging into the PSU.

 

i am going to say that it will not have the USB connector because most HP boards are used in prebuilds and they are not meant to have all the extra overclocking or RGB you can have with buying your components seperately.

[BondiBlue]

Just now, tdkid said:

the USB ports will be used for power and a few other functions if the card doesnt come with a connector on it for plugging into the PSU.

 

i am going to say that it will not have the USB connector because most HP boards are used in prebuilds and they are not meant to have all the extra overclocking or RGB you can have with buying your components seperately.

Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cards don't use the USB connection for power; it's used for Bluetooth data. Also, having internal USB headers has absolutely nothing to do with overclocking or RGB features. Lots of prebuilts from the likes of HP and others use similar boards across a line of machines, and sometimes the headers are included on the board but aren't used. 

This was very common in the late 2000s with HP and Compaq machines. Some of their computers included card readers that connected to internal USB headers, and other machines didn't. The machines that didn't usually had the same (or very similar) boards as the higher end models, and the headers were just left unused. 

[tdkid]

6 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cards don't use the USB connection for power; it's used for Bluetooth data. Also, having internal USB headers has absolutely nothing to do with overclocking or RGB features. Lots of prebuilts from the likes of HP and others use similar boards across a line of machines, and sometimes the headers are included on the board but aren't used. 

This was very common in the late 2000s with HP and Compaq machines. Some of their computers included card readers that connected to internal USB headers, and other machines didn't. The machines that didn't usually had the same (or very similar) boards as the higher end models, and the headers were just left unused. 

if they dont have another way to get power apart from the PCIe slot they might be plugged into. then they have no choice but to use the USB header for power to the card. and you might be rignt on the overclocking but completely wrong about internal USB headers not being used for RGB.. any corsair product like the commander pro uses an internal USB header for the data to control the RGB and a SATA connection for power. on prebuilds you might be right on the RGB too but most prebuilt systems are the low end of components with the same price as a DIY computer so it wouldnt surprise me but just saying that the internal USB headers has nothing to do with RGB is incorrect.

[BondiBlue]

19 minutes ago, tdkid said:

if they dont have another way to get power apart from the PCIe slot they might be plugged into. then they have no choice but to use the USB header for power to the card. and you might be rignt on the overclocking but completely wrong about internal USB headers not being used for RGB.. any corsair product like the commander pro uses an internal USB header for the data to control the RGB and a SATA connection for power. on prebuilds you might be right on the RGB too but most prebuilt systems are the low end of components with the same price as a DIY computer so it wouldnt surprise me but just saying that the internal USB headers has nothing to do with RGB is incorrect.

Sorry, I worded that poorly. They aren't just associated with RGB. They're also used for card readers, front panel ports, and more. Hell, HP used to use them for a removable hard drive system they had. 

The cards aren't using the USB headers for power. If the card didn't have a USB header it wouldn't have a connector for power from the PSU. It's for data. 

[tdkid]

1 minute ago, BondiBlue said:

Sorry, I worded that poorly. They aren't just associated with RGB. They're also used for card readers, front panel ports, and more. Hell, HP used to use them for a removable hard drive system they had. 

The cards aren't using the USB headers for power. If the card didn't have a USB header it wouldn't have a connector for power from the PSU. It's for data. 

i think you are thinking about the wrong kind of USB header. the one the poster is talking about is only 9 pins which it would only be used for RGB and/or power if no other way to connect it (but i doubt that). the ones i think you are thinking of are the ones you would connect the front IO to. the pic below is of my motherboard a MSI z370 gaming plus. the BLUE is the internal USB headers used for things like RGB and the GREEN is used for the front IO USB.

[BondiBlue]

2 minutes ago, tdkid said:

i think you are thinking about the wrong kind of USB header. the one the poster is talking about is only 9 pins which it would only be used for RGB and/or power if no other way to connect it (but i doubt that). the ones i think you are thinking of are the ones you would connect the front IO to. the pic below is of my motherboard a MSI z370 gaming plus. the BLUE is the internal USB headers used for things like RGB and the GREEN is used for the front IO USB.

 

No, no I'm not. You're comparing 2 different types of USB headers: USB 3 (the ones you've marked for front I/O) and USB 2 (the 9 pin connectors). USB 2 headers existed before USB 3, and they were most certainly used for front I/O. Bluetooth PCIe cards connect to the USB 2 headers in order to connect to the computer. They get power from the PCIe slot. 

[tdkid]

1 minute ago, BondiBlue said:

No, no I'm not. You're comparing 2 different types of USB headers: USB 3 (the ones you've marked for front I/O) and USB 2 (the 9 pin connectors). USB 2 headers existed before USB 3, and they were most certainly used for front I/O. Bluetooth PCIe cards connect to the USB 2 headers in order to connect to the computer. They get power from the PCIe slot. 

actually no i have not. that is what i think you were doing because how i said it is exactly how i have my computer hooked up right now. the two Green ones are for the USB ports on the front of the computer case. the ones with Blue even say USB on them and are for things like RGB for inside the case. 

the one bigger plug on the second pic is the SATA for power and the oiher is the USB plug. 

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[BondiBlue]

14 minutes ago, tdkid said:

actually no i have not. that is what i think you were doing because how i said it is exactly how i have my computer hooked up right now. the two Green ones are for the USB ports on the front of the computer case. the ones with Blue even say USB on them and are for things like RGB for inside the case. 

 

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I don't think you're understanding. The headers you're saying are for things inside the case are the same thing as the ones for the front panel - they're just USB 2 instead of 3. They are not at all limited to internal devices like RGB controllers. Yes, they can be used for internal devices, but in years past they were also used for front panel devices like USB 2 ports and card readers. I can explain more if you'd like. 

[tdkid]

2 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

I don't think you're understanding. The headers you're saying are for things inside the case are the same thing as the ones for the front panel - they're just USB 2 instead of 3. They are not at all limited to internal devices like RGB controllers. Yes, they can be used for internal devices, but in years past they were also used for front panel devices like USB 2 ports and card readers. I can explain more if you'd like. 

in years past yes as infinityvoidx would have them if they actually had them on the board but i am correct in what i said. the green ones are for the IO and the blue ones used for internal USB things only because the plugs have changed on the parts. even the manuals for todays tell you that they are for RGB things. i used to have an apevia x hermes case and noiw have a corsair obsidan 1000d.

 

and i attached a 3rd pic in my last comment but you have to open it in a photo viewer of some kind.

 

[BondiBlue]

1 minute ago, tdkid said:

in years past yes as infinityvoidx would have them if they actually had them on the board but i am correct in what i said. the green ones are for the IO and the blue ones used for internal USB things only because the plugs have changed on the parts. even the manuals for todays tell you that they are for RGB things. i used to have an apevia x hermes case and noiw have a corsair obsidan 1000d.

 

and i attached a 3rd pic in my last comment but you have to open it in a photo viewer of some kind.

 

Look, I know what I'm talking about. I just bought a brand new case like 3 weeks ago that uses one of those 9 pin headers for one of the front USB ports. If you'd like I can send you a picture. Those USB 2 headers have not been left just for internal devices. 

[tdkid]

1 minute ago, BondiBlue said:

Look, I know what I'm talking about. I just bought a brand new case like 3 weeks ago that uses one of those 9 pin headers for one of the front USB ports. If you'd like I can send you a picture. Those USB 2 headers have not been left just for internal devices. 

sure go ahead as i am sure infinityvoidx could use it too. and i know what i am talking about too. i just bought myself a new case about the same time and my previous one didnt use those USB headers on my board. it used one of the two green ones i showed you. cases vary depending on who they are but they are getting away from the USB 2 you claim and going towards the ones like the one i mentioned.

[Bitter]

PCIe Bluetooth/Wifi cards often use a laptop module on them connected to a mini PCIe port. In laptops this port has a type of bifurcation for lack of a better term to allow two devices to share one PCIe 1x slot. In desktop PC motherboards this is almost always NOT the case for a 1x slot.  When you connect the PCIe card to the 1x slot it will see the Wifi portion of the card but not the Bluetooth portion because the slot is not split for both devices and the Wifi device always has priority for some reason. To use the Bluetooth part you MUST connect it to an internal USB 1.0 or 2.0 header which is a 9 pin connection. You can get a USB 3.0 to 2.0 adapter, you can get an internal USB hub that will break out 3.0 and 2.0 headers, or you can get a USB 2.0 hub that will give you more internal USB 2.0 ports.

 

@tdkid If you would like I can get some photos of my current X470 motherboard using BOTH the USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 headers for front panel IO as well as plenty of other older motherboards with only 9 pin USB 2.0 headers on them. You seem to have only been using/building PC's since USB 3.0 and it's 19 pin internal header has been a thing. It's rare to see new cases now with USB 2.0 9 pin internal headers used for front I/O so I can understand your confusion about this, but believe me it used to be that the 9 pin header was for front panel USB ports before USB 3.0 came around. USB has been pretty awesome if I may say so, before USB and USB mass storage moving data between PC's was a real bear either needing fat stacks of floppy disks and WinZip to compress the files into separate 1.4MB Zip files or the know-how to connect an external hard drive to a very very slow serial port and then spending hours waiting for files to copy over. It was pretty awful, and you needed a separate special printer port and a separate port for a joystick, a mouse, and a keyboard. Nothing interchanged and almost everything needed the PC to reboot to see the device. Truly we lived like cavemen.

[tdkid]

2 minutes ago, Bitter said:

PCIe Bluetooth/Wifi cards often use a laptop module on them connected to a mini PCIe port. In laptops this port has a type of bifurcation for lack of a better term to allow two devices to share one PCIe 1x slot. In desktop PC motherboards this is almost always NOT the case for a 1x slot.  When you connect the PCIe card to the 1x slot it will see the Wifi portion of the card but not the Bluetooth portion because the slot is not split for both devices and the Wifi device always has priority for some reason. To use the Bluetooth part you MUST connect it to an internal USB 1.0 or 2.0 header which is a 9 pin connection. You can get a USB 3.0 to 2.0 adapter, you can get an internal USB hub that will break out 3.0 and 2.0 headers, or you can get a USB 2.0 hub that will give you more internal USB 2.0 ports.

 

@tdkid If you would like I can get some photos of my current X470 motherboard using BOTH the USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 headers for front panel IO as well as plenty of other older motherboards with only 9 pin USB 2.0 headers on them. You seem to have only been using/building PC's since USB 3.0 and it's 19 pin internal header has been a thing. It's rare to see new cases now with USB 2.0 9 pin internal headers used for front I/O so I can understand your confusion about this, but believe me it used to be that the 9 pin header was for front panel USB ports before USB 3.0 came around. USB has been pretty awesome if I may say so, before USB and USB mass storage moving data between PC's was a real bear either needing fat stacks of floppy disks and WinZip to compress the files into separate 1.4MB Zip files or the know-how to connect an external hard drive to a very very slow serial port and then spending hours waiting for files to copy over. It was pretty awful, and you needed a separate special printer port and a separate port for a joystick, a mouse, and a keyboard. Nothing interchanged and almost everything needed the PC to reboot to see the device. Truly we lived like cavemen.

i am not confused at all. the OP of this thread is using an HP motherboard so it doesnt surprise me they would only have limited availablilty for different things and using the USB 2 and 3 headers depends on your case. most cases today only use the the 19 pin headers. the low end budget ones like the cases costing under $100 for the most part would still use them as my apevia x hermes case did but my new corsair 1000d case doesnt and actually has plugs for the type c ports on the front.

[Bitter]

2 minutes ago, tdkid said:

i am not confused at all. the OP of this thread is using an HP motherboard so it doesnt surprise me they would only have limited availablilty for different things and using the USB 2 and 3 headers depends on your case. most cases today only use the the 19 pin headers. the low end budget ones like the cases costing under $100 for the most part would still use them as my apevia x hermes case did but my new corsair 1000d case doesnt and actually has plugs for the type c ports on the front.

You were specifically arguing that 9 pin header were ONLY for RGB, they are not, and continued to insist that they were only for RGB, which they are not. 9 pin internal USB 2.0 headers are full USB 2.0 implementations which include both power and data. In fact, it's that very USB 2.0 data stream that connects RGB products to the motherboard. When I had my Wraith Prism cooler in use I found that the RGB header controls for it were sorely lacking, but the RGB controls offered when connected to an internal header were much MUCH much better. I lacked enough internal headers for all of my front 2.0 ports and the Wraith cable so I got an internal hub to split one 9 pin it 2 9 pin to service 4 ports on the front of the very very old (like from 2005) case that I'm using so I could connect the heat sink RGB to the motherboard 9 pin, it didn't like being on the hub for some reason but printers, mice, usb drives are Ok with the internal hub. Odd but ok.

 

Anyway, here's the pinout for both headers side by side. Each is basically 2 ports next to each other but broken out to pins. A 9 pin header services two USB 2.0 or 1.0 ports on a front panel with the 10th pin being absent for alignment, both ports share a common ground pin. USB 3.0 is setup similarly.