Enabling XMP causes big issue

[lerodemmy]

So I enabled XMP on my Trident Z Royal, 4000 MHz, C15, 1.5v.  The result was nothing displayed on my monitor.  I had to clear the CMOS to get anything to display.

 

Should I give up on this RAM?  I’m surprised  how much I love the look, and I’d love the speed if I could get it to work.  I’d hate to get rid of it if there’s something I can do.  I’m guessing the problem could be the voltage is too high, but I certainly don’t know that.

 

Is there anything I can do to get up to or near the advertised speed without having to clear the CMOS again and again?

[Analog]

8 minutes ago, lerodemmy said:

So I enabled XMP on my Trident Z Royal, 4000 MHz, C15, 1.5v.  The result was nothing displayed on my monitor.  I had to clear the CMOS to get anything to display.

 

Should I give up on this RAM?  I’m surprised  how much I love the look, and I’d love the speed if I could get it to work.  I’d hate to get rid of it if there’s something I can do.  I’m guessing the problem could be the voltage is too high, but I certainly don’t know that.

 

Is there anything I can do to get up to or near the advertised speed without having to clear the CMOS again and again?

 

Firstly, is this memory in the QVL for your motherboard? If it isn't then there probably is a reason for this. Secondly, 9th-gen Intel processors don't really have that great of a memory controller, so 4000MHz might not be achievable because of that. The processor itself might get unhappy with those speeds.

 

There are two things that you can do to make it to work, at least kind of

 

- loosen the primary timings

- put in the XMP profile but lower the clock speed to 3600MHz or 3800MHz

[boggy77]

the ram is fine, it's the cpu that doesn't like it. you might have to settle for a lower speed, like 3600 or 3800. keep trying.

[lerodemmy]

17 minutes ago, Analog said:

 

Firstly, is this memory in the QVL for your motherboard? If it isn't then there probably is a reason for this. Secondly, 9th-gen Intel processors don't really have that great of a memory controller, so 4000MHz might not be achievable because of that. The processor itself might get unhappy with those speeds.

 

There are two things that you can do to make it to work, at least kind of

 

- loosen the primary timings

- put in the XMP profile but lower the clock speed to 3600MHz or 3800MHz

I don’t know how to check if it’s in the QVL.  It’s the MSI MPG Z590 Gaming Carbon WiFi.

 

I’m using an 11900K.

[lerodemmy]

44 minutes ago, Analog said:

Firstly, is this memory in the QVL for your motherboard?

It doesn’t look like this particular kit is in the QVL.

[lerodemmy]

8 minutes ago, Nacht said:

qvl is very important if it is not on there chances are the kit does not run, you have qvl for mobo cpu and memory vendor it self, g.skill often list it on there product page, your best bet is to lower memory speed to like ddr4 3600 3800 if your cpu can handle that if not try 3200 the lower you clock your ram the more tighter you can set timings probably altho im not familiar weith how to set that up or if that is possible at all.

The RAM won’t overclock at all.  It doesn’t matter what I try to increase the frequency to.  I just get “memory overclock failed.”  I think I should just chalk it and go with something on the mobo’s QVL.

[Mister Woof]

what's your VCCIO/VCCSA? Might try upping that a bit to say 1.15v.

 

Try booting at a lower speed first such as 3600, then if that works, change to 4000. That's what I ended up having to do.

 

Or loosen timings a bit.

[lerodemmy]

26 minutes ago, Nacht said:

 

I would just check for a whole bunch of good kits check there qvl and take the best kit that can technically run with your cpu and motherboard, you may need to overclock to get it stable, its bassicly whats needed with as example amd altho you have intel system think memory is far less important with Intel altho i could be wrong, if been on AMD system since last year.

 

20 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

what's your VCCIO/VCCSA? Might try upping that a bit to say 1.15v.

 

Try booting at a lower speed first such as 3600, then if that works, change to 4000. That's what I ended up having to do.

 

Or loosen timings a bit.

I thought the motherboard was auto-adjusting the voltage, but apparently it wasn’t.  I increased the voltage manually to 1.5, like the kit advertises, and I was able to get 4000 MHz.  I just hope that 1.5v isn’t too much.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, lerodemmy said:

 

I thought the motherboard was auto-adjusting the voltage, but apparently it wasn’t.  I increased the voltage manually to 1.5, like the kit advertises, and I was able to get 4000 MHz.  I just hope that 1.5v isn’t too much.

Sometimes you have to manually enter in values. As far as 1.5v, it probably is okay if that's the spec, but you'll want some decent airflow over your memory modules. I have read that keeping it under 60c is important to prevent errors and freezes.

 

Mine are at 1.35v and still end up hitting the high 40s and low 50s during gaming.

[Mister Woof]

True, IDK about samsung - my Micron E Die apparently doesn't give a shit about temperatures or voltage.

 

 

[lerodemmy]

13 minutes ago, Nacht said:

If he has a samsung b die kit then it should be fine for daily use especially if thats programmed in xmp or advertised, however you haven't exactly posted which kit each memory kit has type number etc like my kit is F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232978?item=N82E16820232978
 

That one

[lerodemmy]

Thank you, guys!