bottleneck An R5 3600 and RTX 3080?

[Avoke]

I know for the most part current gen CPUs don't bottleneck GPUs that easily but..

 

I'm making a build and thinking of getting a Ryzen 5 3600, I'm getting a temporary Gigabyte 960 2GB OC (USD $114) till I can get my hands on a 3070 or hopefully 3080 in a year. 

But I'm wondering if the 3600 will bottleneck a 3080?

 

I will be gaming in 1080p 144Hz most probably, but I need the 3080 for 3D work such as on Blender/Maya/3ds Max or Houdini for real-time renders in the preview window. I am also a filmmaker so Premiere Pro/Davinci Resolve is a thing, might get a 2nd 1440p/4k 60Hz panel for that.

 

Apart from the bottleneck problem, I just realized that I was going with a 650W power supply.. So I assume I should rather go for the 750W Bronze instead with the GPU upgrade in mind?

 

TL;DR - What CPU should I get for an RTX 3080 instead of the R5 3600 that doesn't break the bank too much, IF it will bottleneck.

 

EDIT: Forgot to add that I would also love to stream on twitch as well with this system

Edited April 4, 2021 by Avoke

[heickelrrx]

the so called bottleneck is heavily defendant on what games are you using,

rather than going Ryzen 3600 which around 220, why don't you spend a bit more for Intel core i7 10700F for 250$, you got additional 2 core for your workload, 

Paired with some good Value B560 Board, like AsRock B560 Steel Legend or Asus Prime B560 Plus which cost 120$, You can put some Memory Overclock on higher speed memory, and unlock the power Limit, and enjoy 4.6 all core boost on multicore workload on cheap price

[Avoke]

45 minutes ago, heickelrrx said:

the so called bottleneck is heavily defendant on what games are you using,

rather than going Ryzen 3600 which around 220, why don't you spend a bit more for Intel core i7 10700F for 250$, you got additional 2 core for your workload, 

Paired with some good Value B560 Board, like AsRock B560 Steel Legend or Asus Prime B560 Plus which cost 120$, You can put some Memory Overclock on higher speed memory, and unlock the power Limit, and enjoy 4.6 all core boost on multicore workload on cheap price

My main go-to game is Dota 2, BUT that's nothing I'm worried about because it's not that resource intensive, my current i7-8750H and 6GB 1060 laptop runs it fine. Even games like Valorant can easily use the 144Hz on this system... But I'm talking about games like Warzone, upcoming Battlefield, Apex Legends, occasionally singleplayer games like RDR2 or Assassin's Creed Valhalla on max settings. Can always use more power for Minecraft as well hehe, would love to play it with RTX.

 

As for overclocking.. I really don't want to go in that territory.. I want a more efficient system that runs cool and quiet. Idk much about overclocking and there's a problem with claiming warranty on parts in my country, shopkeepers love to avoid it. And I thought AMD was supposed to be the cheaper alternative to Intel and I also love what they're doing as a company so wanted to switch

 

EDIT: Oh I forgot to add to the original post, I also want to stream with the system to twitch. 

Edited April 4, 2021 by Avoke

[heickelrrx]

Just now, Avoke said:

My main go-to game is Dota 2, BUT that's nothing I'm worried about because it's not that resource intensive, my current i7-8750H and 6GB 1060 laptop runs it fine. Even games like Valorant can easily use the 144Hz on this system... But I'm talking about games like Warzone, upcoming Battlefield, Apex Legends, occasionally singleplayer games like RDR2 or Assassin's Creed Valhalla on max settings. Can always use more power for Minecraft as well hehe, would love to play it with RTX.

 

As for overclocking.. I really don't want to go in that territory.. I want a more efficient system that runs cool and quiet. Idk much about overclocking and there's a problem with claiming warranty on parts in my country, shopkeepers love to avoid it. And I thought AMD was supposed to be the cheaper alternative to Intel and I also love what they're doing as a company so wanted to switch

if you just wanna save some bucks, you can go with 10400F, or newer 11400F, this will set you back 6/12 thread, otherwise 10700F is the great value 8/16 CPU

AMD price has increase now they have the performance lead on the 5000 series, while also suffering the same shortage that most GPU do, since AMD are outsourcing their production to the same factory that make those chip

[Nena Trinity]

11400F is better buy in this price range if you need board and EVERYTHING but if you plan to get a 12core or more later the Intel platform maxes out at just 10-cores and then you gotta go a generation backwards... UwU

[heickelrrx]

13 hours ago, Avoke said:

My main go-to game is Dota 2, BUT that's nothing I'm worried about because it's not that resource intensive, my current i7-8750H and 6GB 1060 laptop runs it fine. Even games like Valorant can easily use the 144Hz on this system... But I'm talking about games like Warzone, upcoming Battlefield, Apex Legends, occasionally singleplayer games like RDR2 or Assassin's Creed Valhalla on max settings. Can always use more power for Minecraft as well hehe, would love to play it with RTX.

 

As for overclocking.. I really don't want to go in that territory.. I want a more efficient system that runs cool and quiet. Idk much about overclocking and there's a problem with claiming warranty on parts in my country, shopkeepers love to avoid it. And I thought AMD was supposed to be the cheaper alternative to Intel and I also love what they're doing as a company so wanted to switch

 

EDIT: Oh I forgot to add to the original post, I also want to stream with the system to twitch. 

I personally stream too on twitch on 10400f tho not that often, but I use Turing Card so the GPU encode is doing the job for me, it rarely have any problem, if u edit, the extra 2 core from i7 may come handy, or if u just be patient 6 not that bad

 

 

[Avoke]

2 minutes ago, Nena Trinity said:

11400F is better buy in this price range if you need board and EVERYTHING but if you plan to get a 12core or more later the Intel platform maxes out at just 10-cores and then you gotta go a generation backwards... UwU

Here's the thing, I don't know if I need more cores? Do I? 

 

I think I need good single-core performance but also 6-10 cores, but I also want a CPU that can pair well with an RTX upto 3080. Maybe in the future I do shift to very many more than I need cores like 12 so who knows..

[Avoke]

12 minutes ago, heickelrrx said:

I personally stream too on twitch on 10400f tho not that often, but I use Turing Card so the GPU encode is doing the job for me, it rarely have any problem, if u edit, the extra 2 core from i7 may come handy, or if u just be patient 6 not that bad

 

 

So what I'm getting from all this and a bit of my own research is that.. An 8/16 would be best for me. So what's the best value for money 8/16 CPU that won't bottleneck a 3080?

[Nena Trinity]

3 minutes ago, Avoke said:

Here's the thing, I don't know if I need more cores? Do I? 

 

I think I need good single-core performance but also 6-10 cores, but I also want a CPU that can pair well with an RTX upto 3080. Maybe in the future I do shift to very many more than I need cores like 12 so who knows..

I think 6-cores is enough for 60fps this whole console generation, tough 8-cores if you wanna make sure 100% despite the console having 8-cores the 6-core on desktop runs much higher GHz! ^_^

[Avoke]

1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

I think 6-cores is enough for 60fps this whole console generation, tough 8-cores if you wanna make sure 100% despite the console having 8-cores the 6-core on desktop runs much higher GHz! ^_^

I would be fine with 6-cores if I was only doing gaming etc, but I'm also interested in 3D work and VFX which can definitely use the extra cores when working in software

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, Avoke said:

I would be fine with 6-cores if I was only doing gaming etc, but I'm also interested in 3D work and VFX which can definitely use the extra cores when working in software

6 to 8 gets my vote.

[heickelrrx]

2 hours ago, Avoke said:

So what I'm getting from all this and a bit of my own research is that.. An 8/16 would be best for me. So what's the best value for money 8/16 CPU that won't bottleneck a 3080?

It’s less about being a bottleneck and more about the multitask

 

GPU can do the encoding but u might add plugin here and there on your stream, like those fancy chat window, your facecamera, your fancy bits reader, or idk u might have something more, additional core can help do the work