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1 minute ago, YesImThatGuy said:

Pro and Cons?

Futureproofing?

Which is better?

Overall?

This question is too vague to answer.

There are at least half a dozen options for Pascal and Maxwell cards, of varying quality. It's impossible to mention all the prors and cons.

 

Get a graphics card that gets you the performance you want, for a price you want to pay. Of course newer graphics cards might get more drivers released for them, but that's a minimal difference.

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

This question is too vague to answer.

There are at least half a dozen options for Pascal and Maxwell cards, of varying quality. It's impossible to mention all the prors and cons.

 

Get a graphics card that gets you the performance you want, for a price you want to pay. Of course newer graphics cards might get more drivers released for them, but that's a minimal difference.

I mean architecture.

 

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A pascal card would be better then a maxwell one in general. Can you provide more info on what you're considering?

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3 minutes ago, YesImThatGuy said:

Pro and Cons?

Without a use case you can't decide what constitutes a drawback?

3 minutes ago, YesImThatGuy said:

Futureproofing?

Hate the term but Pascal is newer so it'll be supported longer and play nicer with newer APIs.

4 minutes ago, YesImThatGuy said:

Which is better?

Pascal. 

4 minutes ago, YesImThatGuy said:

Overall?

Pascal.

 

There would be little reason to release an arch that is worse than your last one, I don't see why this is even a question lol. 

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Just now, YesImThatGuy said:

I mean architecture.

Yes, I am fully aware Maxwell and Pascal are GPU architectures.

Are you aware Pascal is GTX 750 Ti - GTX 980 Ti and Maxwell is GT 1030 - GTX 1080 Ti? There is a huge margin between the different cards in this architecture and I cannot answer any of these question based on such a wide range of products.

Plus, without more information on what you will use them for (what games, resolutions, etc.) it's impossible to give any commentary.

 

On top of that, the price matters too.

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Just now, minibois said:

Are you aware Pascal is GTX 750 Ti - GTX 980 Ti and Maxwell is GT 1030 - GTX 1080 Ti?

Mixed those up - GTX 750 - GTX 980 Ti is Maxwell and GT 1010 - GTX 1080 Ti is Pascal.

The 750 is Maxwell too.

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2 minutes ago, minibois said:

Yes, I am fully aware Maxwell and Pascal are GPU architectures.

Are you aware Pascal is GTX 750 Ti - GTX 980 Ti and Maxwell is GT 1030 - GTX 1080 Ti? There is a huge margin between the different cards in this architecture and I cannot answer any of these question based on such a wide range of products.

Plus, without more information on what you will use them for (what games, resolutions, etc.) it's impossible to give any commentary.

 

On top of that, the price matters too.

think you mixed them up

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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5 minutes ago, Downkey said:

think you mixed them up

6 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Mixed those up - GTX 750 - GTX 980 Ti is Maxwell and GT 1010 - GTX 1080 Ti is Pascal.

The 750 is Maxwell too.

I may have mixed up the architecture names (and chosen to forget about the GT 1010), but my point still stands, it's impossible to say "which is better" when only looking at only the architecture.

Look at the performance of a graphics card and choose if that's appropriate for the intended goal. Of course keeping in mind newer graphics card would get more driver support.

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From a tweaking perspective, Maxwell is much better imo. Proper voltage control and Maxwell BIOS Tweaker is good fun. Especially when you experiment with GPC, L2C and XBAR clocks. Maxwell was the last architecture that you could properly play with. Everything since then just isn't the same.

 

Pascal with its volt/frequency curve is cool though. And while you can set a fixed voltage via the curve it's a bit of a chore to do. Lack of a public BIOS editor sucks.

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Futureproofing? With a 7 year old Architecture? No...

 

I have a Maxwell card. It was "more than enough" for gaming 1080p at 60hz. Even multiple displays didn't seem to cause it too much difficulty. But the moment I threw a 1440p 144hz monitor at it, it couldn't cut it anymore.

 

For mining, my 3900XT can out-mine it, and use less power doing so.

 

So, no, Maxwell is dead and gone, at least if you are going to be running anything past 1080p 60hz.

 

Pascal probably has a bit of life left in it. I went Vega 64 over Pascal, but I kinda wish I had managed to get a 1080TI instead. I got a good Vega 64, though, and it can handle 1440p 144hz, though I will be retiring the card as soon as I can find a new card at a non-scalper price.

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