Software lock on 3060

[Pc6777]

Idk how I feel about the hash rate lock, it helps people get gpus but I feel like it's a bit invasive. It's a peice of hardware I feel you should he able to do whatever you want with it. What if I got a 3060 then upgraded 2 years later and wanted to mine with my old card. People are just going to flash bios or modify drivers anyway, most likely. Maybe this is just temporary and Nvidia will unlock them after there is better stock, because the shortage is hurting there rep and alienating there costumer base. I don't mine or anything I just don't know how I feel about hardware having locks on it for certain things/artificial limitations. Plus it could hurt resale value down the line.

[tikker]

11 minutes ago, Pc6777 said:

It's a peice of hardware I feel you should he able to do whatever you want with it.

Can't have your cake and eat it. Let people do what they want with it, you will have miners buying up potentially large amounts. Block miners so gamers have stock and others will complain not wanting companies telling us what we can and cannot do.

11 minutes ago, Pc6777 said:

because the shortage is hurting there rep and alienating there costumer base.

Everybody knows by now, or should know, that there area good reasons for the shortages. It sucks, yes, but it's not like they're doing it on purpose to give their community the finger.

[Pc6777]

7 minutes ago, tikker said:

Can't have your cake and eat it. Let people do what they want with it, you will have miners buying up potentially large amounts. Block miners so gamers have stock and others will complain not wanting companies telling us what we can and cannot do.

Everybody knows by now, or should know, that there area good reasons for the shortages. It sucks, yes, but it's not like they're doing it on purpose to give their community the finger.

I guess you can't make everyone happy, I meant to click the like button but you can have the solution it's not really a help thread anyway lol.

[tikker]

3 minutes ago, Pc6777 said:

I guess you can't make everyone happy, I meant to click the like button but you can have the solution it's not really a help thread anyway lol.

You can probably unmark it by just clicking again.

 

Hopefully it'll help with short term supply a bit. A 3060 would have a much wider audience than a 3080 I reckon.

[Pc6777]

1 minute ago, tikker said:

You can probably unmark it by just clicking again.

 

Hopefully it'll help with short term supply a bit. A 3060 would have a much wider audience than a 3080 I reckon.

I'm fine with the lock I guess kinda if it's temporary only because shortages, but if they keep the lock on indefinitely they just used this as an exuse to hype up there mining gpu line knowing they won't get backlash.

[Eigenvektor]

12 minutes ago, Pc6777 said:

I'm fine with the lock I guess kinda if it's temporary only because shortages, but if they keep the lock on indefinitely they just used this as an exuse to hype up there mining gpu line knowing they won't get backlash.

If you bought a 3060 with the clear goal of using it for mining and then Nvidia changed it after the fact, I could see a reason for complaining. But if this limitation is known beforehand I don't quite see the issue. You know you can't use the card for mining the moment you buy it, so if that is your plan buy another GPU.

 

Of course their lock is only enforced by the driver anyway, so you'll probably get hacked drivers in short order.

 

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Plus it could hurt resale value down the line.

How likely is it that a miner is going to buy a used card that is two generations old already? That's not going to be profitable no matter how cheap you sell it, since its perf/watt is going to be much too low compared to newer cards. And difficulty for mining increases over time, so older cards simply don't cut it anymore.

[thepoorgamer]

I think what Nvidia is doing is fair. They have announced an alternate product line for miners, and if miners want GPU's they should buy mining cards. I do understand why people are upset, as I was pondering mineing on my rig once I got it. This is the best thing for gamers because it gives us a chance of getting one at launch. I know the miners will hack the 3060, but it will take time, and during that time gamers will be able to buy the GPU's. I hope they do the same with the 3070ti. If they do, I might be able to get a rig soon!

[ewitte]

There is nothing Nvidia can do without implementing hardware changes.   At best if they can just slow it for a few months during new product launches and then disable once the supply is up...

[Lord Bloobus]

The **60 sku is their best seller, you want as many in the hands of gamers as possible or they will go somewhere else with their money. Miners are only here for the pump, they are not a lasting customer.

[Mick Naughty]

Like it’s been done before, you can simply mod the driver and be back to mining. 
Assuming the hash rate is worth the price and power compared to other cards. 

[Pc6777]

4 hours ago, Lord Bloobus said:

The **60 sku is their best seller, you want as many in the hands of gamers as possible or they will go somewhere else with their money. Miners are only here for the pump, they are not a lasting customer.

true, 60 series cards have sold the best since the start of the gtx series, except maybe the 960, the 970 may have outsold it because of how it was positioned.  

[Pc6777]

5 hours ago, thepoorgamer said:

I think what Nvidia is doing is fair. They have announced an alternate product line for miners, and if miners want GPU's they should buy mining cards. I do understand why people are upset, as I was pondering mineing on my rig once I got it. This is the best thing for gamers because it gives us a chance of getting one at launch. I know the miners will hack the 3060, but it will take time, and during that time gamers will be able to buy the GPU's. I hope they do the same with the 3070ti. If they do, I might be able to get a rig soon!

i'm saying after the shortage they should get rid of the lock, and if they don't its proof they just want to push there mining line. i'm fine with a temporary lock but its a piece of hardware but when the market stabilizes I want to do what I want with my hardware. scalping would not be nearly as bad if NVidia just said screw this and made it so you had to buy the gpus in a physical store with a limit of 1. or curbside pickup(you have to call on the phone to pick it up)