I installed a 5600X in my X370 Taichi and it works

[Ryan Leech]

I went to Microcenter yesterday expecting to buy some SSDs but I ended up leaving with a 5600X after I discovered they were in stock. I had been hoping to upgrade to one ever since October so the dream had finally been realized. Of course my ASRock X370 Taichi wouldn't be receiving official support for the 5000 series but I wanted to keep using it as it has been a rock solid board ever since I bought it in 2017. It's amazing to think that I've kept the same board while upgrading across four generations of Ryzen (1300X>2600X>3500X>5600X).

 

I'll keep the rambling short. ASRock added unofficial support for the 5000 series in the unreleased 6.61 BIOS update. I wouldn't have found this BIOS if it weren't for the dedicated members of the X370 Taichi thread on overclock.net who continue to look for new ways to breath life into this board - they have even found ways to flash the X470 Taichi BIOS onto the X370. I simply installed the BIOS from a USB drive and it worked without a hitch. I then installed the 5600X and it posted immediately, much to my surprise. Members of overclock.net have reported that BIOS 6.61 limits their PCIe bandwidth to 8x but in my case I didn't notice any difference because I'm running two R9 290 Vapor-Xs in Crossfire.

 

The install

 

Installed

 

Powered on

 

In CPU-Z

 

The update prior to the install

 

[Entropy.]

Oh lord. At first I thought you said z390 

[WhitetailAni]

Just now, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Oh lord. At first I thought you said z390 

That's right - he made an LGA1151v2 to AM4 adapter.

Where do you find one? I'd like to buy one.

Anyway, OP:
Do you think I could run Zen 3 in my Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming or no?

Not wanting to, just out of curiosity.

[cm992]

That is amazing! Great to know this is possible. Now I'm questioning why AMD doesn't tell all board manufacturers to make a 5000 series bios update for their 300 series boards? 

[Ryan Leech]

7 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Oh lord. At first I thought you said z390 

Vermeer is so good that it's even compatible with Intel boards

[Ryan Leech]

7 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

That's right - he made an LGA1151v2 to AM4 adapter.

Where do you find one? I'd like to buy one.

Anyway, OP:
Do you think I could run Zen 3 in my Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming or no?

Not wanting to, just out of curiosity.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Asus to add support. There's a slim chance that we'll see Vermeer support on a majority of 300 series boards.

[anothernguyen]

Oh nice looking build! I was just thinking of doing the same, upgrading from 1700x to 5600x on my x370 Taichi.

 

Any issues with stability, CPU stresses or sore points?

[Ryan Leech]

12 hours ago, anothernguyen said:

Oh nice looking build! I was just thinking of doing the same, upgrading from 1700x to 5600x on my x370 Taichi.

 

Any issues with stability, CPU stresses or sore points?

I left P95 running all night with PBO cranked to 230 and didn't experience any errors so I'd say it's stable so far. This actually really surprised me because I had keyed in a 1966 FCLK and 3933 CL18 memory. It's crazy to think that this same X370 Taichi that could barely run 2933 memory in 2017 can now do 3933, thanks Vermeer!

 

I would also add that 6.61 seems to post and wake from sleep faster.

[CommanderAlex]

On 2/2/2021 at 1:31 PM, cm992 said:

That is amazing! Great to know this is possible. Now I'm questioning why AMD doesn't tell all board manufacturers to make a 5000 series bios update for their 300 series boards? 

Its simple...

 

 

To OP, nice job getting the BIOS to work and extend the longevity out of your X370 motherboard with a 5600X. Pretty awesome that it works fine. 

[Ryan Leech]

@SpiderMansummed it up well, they'd rather have us buy new B550 and X570 boards. Contrary to what AMD's sales wants, I'm just fine using the same motherboard that I bought in 2017. Thanks ASRock.

[anothernguyen]

I made the jump today and flashed 6.61 on my x370 taichi and then swapped my 1700x for the 5600x and it booted no problem! Looks stable so far after some benchmarks and gaming.

 

I did have 3 random unknown PCI devices in Device Manager, and googling around, it was remedied with the chipset drivers from https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

 

But overall, kudos to ASRock for extending the life of this mobo. The bios support is on point!

[Ryan Leech]

@anothernguyenIt's good to hear that it worked for you too. Did you try pushing your memory frequency/timings yet? 6.61 allows me to post with my Vipers at 4400 XMP whereas older BIOSs capped at 4000. 

[anothernguyen]

On 2/4/2021 at 11:24 AM, Ryan Leech said:

@anothernguyenIt's good to hear that it worked for you too. Did you try pushing your memory frequency/timings yet? 6.61 allows me to post with my Vipers at 4400 XMP whereas older BIOSs capped at 4000. 

I have cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 and used the XMP profile to 3000 and it seems to work alright, but haven't really tried anything beyond that. doesn't seem like my particular ram is really OC-able.

 

Are you running into issues with sleep or hibernate features? Mine seems to not go fully to sleep, power lights are still on, and moving the mouse will immediately turn on the monitor.

[Ryan Leech]

On 2/16/2021 at 1:17 AM, anothernguyen said:

I have cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 and used the XMP profile to 3000 and it seems to work alright, but haven't really tried anything beyond that. doesn't seem like my particular ram is really OC-able.

 

Are you running into issues with sleep or hibernate features? Mine seems to not go fully to sleep, power lights are still on, and moving the mouse will immediately turn on the monitor.

I haven't ran into any issues with sleep yet. I simply put the system to sleep in the evening and it stays asleep all night with no issues and it wakes up instantly when I tough the keyboard. It might be worth disabling wake from mouse or wake from keyboard in the BIOS. Perhaps the issue could be the result of some minor incompatibility between one of your peripherals and the Taichi. Other suggestions would be disabling quick startup in Windows and double checking that S states are enabled in the BIOS.

[Mister Woof]

how does crossfired 290s hold up today?

 

Does crossfire have limited support still?

[Ryan Leech]

9 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

how does crossfired 290s hold up today?

 

Does crossfire have limited support still?

The cards have held up great even with my 1440p monitor. I can still run newer games at 1440 medium or low with acceptable frame rates and they perform well for heavy Lightroom, Photoshop and DaVinci Resolve workloads. As far as Crossfire support, I only enable it in older games that were made for it like Battlefield 3 and 4. Launching new games with Crossfire enabled usually results in artifacts and stuttering so I avoid it.

 

The main reason I still run these R9 290 Vapor-X cards is that they just look so good together.

 

[mr cheese]

thank you for this 4K HDR orgasmic eye-candy of a system build, truly amazing what we can do with Ryzen systems

 

God those cards are hot as hell

[Mister Woof]

16 minutes ago, Ryan Leech said:

The cards have held up great even with my 1440p monitor. I can still run newer games at 1440 medium or low with acceptable frame rates and they perform well for heavy Lightroom, Photoshop and DaVinci Resolve workloads. As far as Crossfire support, I only enable it in older games that were made for it like Battlefield 3 and 4. Launching new games with Crossfire enabled usually results in artifacts and stuttering so I avoid it.

 

The main reason I still run these R9 290 Vapor-X cards is that they just look so good together.

 

They are quite attractive cards. Thanks for the information.

[Ryan Leech]

11 minutes ago, DaJakerBoss said:

thank you for this 4K HDR orgasmic eye-candy of a system build, truly amazing what we can do with Ryzen systems

 

God those cards are hot as hell

Thanks! I appreciate it when someone photos their build with a camera as opposed to a phone.

 

These cards are quite literally hot as hell - with both under full load my case becomes too hot to touch.

[mr cheese]

3 hours ago, Ryan Leech said:

Thanks! I appreciate it when someone photos their build with a camera as opposed to a phone.

 

These cards are quite literally hot as hell - with both under full load my case becomes too hot to touch.

God I've started mining lately and with heavy OC's on everything in my system I feel that, I will say that liike, under full OC, my 3060ti (taking air from a radiator intake of a CPU running 78C and choked by another card) hits 83 sustained, what do your cards run?

[Ryan Leech]

10 hours ago, DaJakerBoss said:

God I've started mining lately and with heavy OC's on everything in my system I feel that, I will say that liike, under full OC, my 3060ti (taking air from a radiator intake of a CPU running 78C and choked by another card) hits 83 sustained, what do your cards run?

When I'm in a Crossfire supported game, I see both GPUs around 90C with max fan speed and the case's glass side panel reaches 70C. The S340 has anemic airflow to say the least. Good thing Ryzen doesn't add much heat to the equation.

[Mister Woof]

25 minutes ago, Ryan Leech said:

When I'm in a Crossfire supported game, I see both GPUs around 90C with max fan speed and the case's glass side panel reaches 70C. The S340 has anemic airflow to say the least. Good thing Ryzen doesn't add much heat to the equation.

I used to use an S340 when I used a 5700XT - the case airflow was pitiful to say the least even with 2x140mm intake fans (for obvious reasons they didn't do much). Even with 2x120mm exhaust fans, airflow in that case is stifling. 

 

I upgraded to the Corsair 275r Airflow, and while I don't like the front filter access (need to take front panel off which is held in by plastic pins which eventually will break), temperatures for the GPU decreased dramatically.

[Ryan Leech]

47 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I used to use an S340 when I used a 5700XT - the case airflow was pitiful to say the least even with 2x140mm intake fans (for obvious reasons they didn't do much). Even with 2x120mm exhaust fans, airflow in that case is stifling. 

 

I upgraded to the Corsair 275r Airflow, and while I don't like the front filter access (need to take front panel off which is held in by plastic pins which eventually will break), temperatures for the GPU decreased dramatically.

I think the S340's days are numbered, I'm thinking about moving into an H710 later this year so the R9 290s can breath and I can have the 280mm Kraken up top. With all fans maxed in the S340 there's still hardly any airflow. The situation is equally as bad in my H500 that houses an overclocked FX-9590.

[anothernguyen]

anyone here try the new bios update, p6.62 ? It appears to fix the PCIe x8 problem to full x16. I am curious how it will affect benchmark scores pre and post.

 

https://www.hkepc.com/20184/BUG_%E5%B7%B2_FIXED__Ryzen_5000_%E5%AE%8C%E7%BE%8E%E6%94%AF%E6%8F%B4_ASROCK_X370_%E4%B8%BB%E6%A9%9F%E6%9D%BF%E5%A6%96_BIOS_%E6%9C%89%E6%9B%B4%E6%96%B0_

[prodev42]

I just got 5700x from MicroCenter and flashed the Taichi X370 Mobo ROM from 3.2 to 7.1. It booted well. Can anyone tell me what parameters need to be changed in the BIOS to make the system great?

BTW my graphic card is a 6900XT.

Thanks!