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No, but they have the option to do so.

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Currently no

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Who even still cares for Mantle with new iterations of DirectX and OpenGL on the waz?

Well we should care considering its currently the best option, hopefully dx12 or whatever its called works but we have no idea as to whether it will be better or worse or on par with mantle.

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Well the bf4 implementation of mantle is ok.But THIEF was suppsoed to come out with mantle and didnt.We dont get it for another 2 days. NVIDIA isnt going to jump on it until they need to.Which with dx 12 coming there's really no point at this time. Until mantle starts getting adopted by every developer NVIDIA is in no trouble.

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Really people should be pushing OpenGL.

Mantle is heavily focused on by AMD and DirectX is Windows only.

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Nobody cares about Mantle except the people AMD is paying, DX12 is getting revealed soon and on the way.

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Well we should care considering its currently the best option, hopefully dx12 or whatever its called works but we have no idea as to whether it will be better or worse or on par with mantle.

 

Isn't it still in beta? 'working' (i.e. with bugs) only with very few games and only bringing a significant adavantage with a very limited amount of gpus?

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No, but they have the option to do so.

 

 

Mantle is open source

 

 

they could, but right now it doesn't look like this technology will ever be properly implemented

 

No, no and no.

 

AMD's mantle is a proprietry technology only available on specific AMD cards. You and I can't even download the API and its documentation to write a game in it yet, its not even remotely released so that anyone can make a game in it. Nvidia certainly can't implement a Mantle driver today, they would be breach of AMDs copyright.

 

AMD has said that maybe in the future they might open it up but today its neither open source, nor open for anyone to implement as a GPU manufacturer nor as a game maker.

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No, no and no.

 

AMD's mantle is a proprietry technology only available on specific AMD cards. You and I can't even download the API and its documentation to write a game in it yet, its not even remotely released so that anyone can make a game in it. Nvidia certainly can't implement a Mantle driver today, they would be breach of AMDs copyright.

 

AMD has said that maybe in the future they might open it up but today its neither open source, nor open for anyone to implement as a GPU manufacturer nor as a game maker.

It's not tied to AMD, but the architecture they use. If NVIDIA used he GCN architecture they could use Mantle as well.

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It's not tied to AMD, but the architecture they use. If NVIDIA used he GCN architecture they could use Mantle as well.

But Nvidia isn't allowed to use GCN architecture because its AMD proprietry and it would be a breach of copyright. Its not possible for Nvidia to implement Mantle today under the current rules of the law, period.

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But Nvidia isn't allowed to use GCN architecture because its AMD proprietry and it would be a breach of copyright. Its not possible for Nvidia to implement Mantle today under the current rules of the law, period.

AMD has stated they might possibly open it up. But yes, at the moment Nvidia can't and would probably have to pay quite a bit to be able to.

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Microsofts has adopted mantle through DX12: http://semiaccurate.com/2014/03/18/microsoft-adopts-mantle-calls-dx12/

Amd has alao partnered with Crytek for the adoption of mantle into Cryengine, and you guys know the amount of games that utilise that engine: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/03/19/exclusive-amds-matt-skynner-talks-new-crytek-partnership-mantles-beacon-of-leadership/

And to you guys claiming the Xbox will never get Mantle or DX12, never before have you been so terribly wrong. GDC 2014, google it in relation to the xbox.

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That is not true, not even slightly. Mantle is not open source. But I'll let you prove it - please provide a link to the source repository they are using.

Well, true it's not ''open source'' but can't they change that and won't they have to in order for it to work on StreamOS?

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Nothing about SteamOS necessitates open sourcing Mantle at all. 

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/amds-mantle-and-why-valve-might-want-to-worry, correct me if I'm easily mislead 

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The only thing AMD has said on it is that its a possible future to make it open. We have no idea what they mean by that, whether its open source and covered completely by such a licence or whether that means standards body or anything. But that is not reality today, today you can't even download Mantle's API and develop a game in it. Its about the most closed graphics API you could have, only big companies can get access to it.

 

If you check the link and the slides not once does AMD even mention open, because it isn't.

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Why do u care bout mantle?

Id your rig is weak then yeah I guess

Dont plan on building a pc with mamtle in mind

Thats just noooo like nooooooo

Just dont have mantle on your mund when building

You will be disappointed

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As of now, no. But AMD has said that they are looking into licencing it out to others. 

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