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[GDRRiley]

3 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

But where are you getting 20% from? The 3900X to the 5600X which are the only 2 chips that are on the same platform (Desktop) and are a generation apart and the difference between them is 17% not 20. So you're theoretical 4900U score would be 1458 at 150% the power of the M1.

zen2 to zen3 is around 15-22% mattering on workload.

it isn't a 4900U with current names it would be  5900U and no its at the same power.

[GDRRiley]

2 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

According to reviews I've seen the difference between the 3950X and 5950X is around 15%

You're trying to dispute a Zen 3 chip that is a 105W chip uses less power per core than the M1 uses for the entire SoC in which you are still wrong.

from where?

Spoiler

In fact, using our industry benchmarks, for single threaded performance, we observed a +19% increase in CPU performance per clock. We have to offer kudos to AMD here, this is the second or third time they've quoted IPC figures which we've matched.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16214/amd-zen-3-ryzen-deep-dive-review-5950x-5900x-5800x-and-5700x-tested

comparing desktop chip to mobile isn't the dam goal. and your ignoring what zen3 APUS/mobiles will bring

 

[Lord Vile]

6 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

zen2 to zen3 is around 15-22% mattering on workload.

it isn't a 4900U with current names it would be  5900U and no its at the same power.

5900U hasn't even been announced so you have no idea and are basing of rumour.

 

6 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

from where?

From where what? 

6 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

comparing desktop chip to mobile isn't the dam goal. and your ignoring what zen3 APUS/mobiles will bring

 

MIGHT please stop basing arguments off of the rumour mill. And the point comparing them is the M1 pretty much levels desktop Zen 3 performance per core whilst using less power for the full SoC than Zen 3 uses for just one core. AMD won't beat the M1 per core in mobile at 15W when they barely do it at 65W on the desktop

[GDRRiley]

7 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

5900U hasn't even been announced so you have no idea and are basing of rumour.

 

From where what? 

MIGHT please stop basing arguments off of the rumour mill. And the point comparing them is the M1 pretty much levels desktop Zen 3 performance per core whilst using less power for the full SoC than Zen 3 uses for just one core. AMD won't beat the M1 per core in mobile at 15W when they barely do it at 65W on the desktop

Who says I'm running off of rumor mill? I know how zen3 scales up to epyc. 280W/64C is 4.375W per core including an IO die or 225W/64 is 3.5W per core including an IO die.

who claims zen2 to zen3 IPC gain is only 15%?

 

M1 will be matched and that is with AMD on 7nm while apples on 5nm.

[leadeater]

12 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

You're trying to dispute a Zen 3 chip that is a 105W chip uses less power per core than the M1 uses for the entire SoC in which you are still wrong. 

No I am not, I'm am disputing specific things you have said about Zen 3. I am also pointing out your hypocrisy in comparing a purposed design low power chip operating on the efficiency curve of a silicon process to a purpose designed high power chip operating on the exponentially higher inefficient curve of a silicon process.

 

You are not merely praising the M1 for having great performance and for single core at that of desktop class performance, you are trying to ridicule another architecture with a disingenuous comparison regarding power and stating that Zen 3 in entirety is not and can not be power efficient which is false. M1 can stand on it's own merits, it does not need this.

 

Absolutely nowhere did I say per core or in total does Zen 3 use less than M1 per core or in total. You clearly have not read anything I have been writing nor any of the provided links with evidence so why are you still bothering to reply. You aren't providing any value to the discussion if you won't do this.

 

Max boost for a 4800U is 4.2GHz which results in ~8.5W for that core alone, 4900H is 4.4GHz which results in ~11.5W for that core alone. Neither of these are less than M1, neither are they anywhere near as high as you have tried to claim in the past.

 

5600X boost at 4.6GHz results in 11.8W for that core alone, also not less than M1 per core however also not higher than the M1 at full power full utilization either.

3 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

M1 pretty much levels desktop Zen 3 performance per core whilst using less power for the full SoC than Zen 3 uses for just one core

Again wrong.

[leadeater]

12 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

No you're just trying to make an argument by putting words in peoples mouths.

Or you are just totally unwilling to look at the evidence and blinded by your own bias and adamant your point of view or correct which is resulting in you not actually reading counter opinions and arguments and cherry picking information and data to support your position even when the source you are pulling from disproves what you are saying.

 

When you do that you cannot be helped.

 

If you don't want to land yourself in this discussion over and over I suggest you stop making them because honest truth here I will dispute every time I see it, because facts matter.

 

I do however have one thing I need to apologize for and correct, you were not the person that made the claim the minimum power an U series CPU will use is 15W, that was someone else.