Help wanted; RAM Speed vs capacity

[We Didnt_t start_the_fire]

Still open to answers: TL:DR 24g 2666 at cl 19 vs 16g 3200 cl20. Which one to chose.

 

Can skip this part:

 

I have an 2666 ddr4 16g cl19 ram I plan to use/install that I have.

 

I have two PC's. My main is q 2x8 3200 of cl 20. Thereafter refer to PC 1.

The other an single 2666 8g  cl 19. A slightly 1 year older PC. Thereafter refer to PC 2.

• If any difference; PC1 is intel, PC2 is AMD. 9TH Gen and 3000+(refresh variant)
• (Not for gaming, mostly but I don't want it to be an argument either way)

 

Either way it will make the one I install on 24G. At 2666 however.

So should I go with 24G 2666 cl 20 (newer and higher performing pc1)

or keep the pc1 16g 3200 cl 19 and install as originally planned over pc2.

It will be 24g 2666 cl19 pc2(older and less performant one).

 

• So which one should I chose?

 

Finally just in general for future reference, which to favor with regards to speed vs capacity?

For future builds with new stuffs when I get them in a couple months.

[Moonzy]

Quite a confusing post, so you only want one PC and is wondering which one to use the RAM on?

 

18 minutes ago, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

which to favor with regards to speed vs capacity?

If you need the capacity, that comes first, even if you have to run it in single channel

 

If you don't need the extra capacity, speed is nice to have

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Just now, Moonzy said:

Quite a confusing post, so you only want one PC and is wondering which one to use the RAM on?

 

If you need the capacity, that comes first, even if you have to run it in single channel

 

If you don't need the extra capacity, speed is nice to have

Which one would provide an smoother experience as that is most important with these machine.

[Mark_Laidlaw]

The kit with the lower latency

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

Which one would provide an smoother experience as that is most important with these machine.

What exactly are those CPU?

9900k? Ryzen 3900x? Or something else

 

Have to know which CPU performs better first

 

Secondly, do you need more than 16gb RAM?

[Mark_Laidlaw]

Just now, Moonzy said:

What exactly are those CPU?

9900k? Ryzen 3900x? Or something else

 

Have to know which CPU performs better first

 

Secondly, do you need more than 16gb RAM?

Windows at idle uses around 4-5GB of RAM, so 16GB seems to be kind of the minimum in 2020

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4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

What exactly are those CPU?

9900k? Ryzen 3900x? Or something else

 

Have to know which CPU performs better first

 

Secondly, do you need more than 16gb RAM?

The newer AMD 3800X perform better and have better component(faster ssd), intel 9700.

 

So do I pair it with the better cpu or with the older one to boost the performance of that one. I forgot to mention that the 8g 3200 cl 19 will stay or go to the other machine when install the new ram.

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

The newer AMD 3800X perform better and have better component(faster ssd), intel 9700.

They're both quite nice rigs

But if I had to pick one, I'd pick the 3800x as my main rig, and use 2x8gb 3200 there, and leave the 1x8gb in the 9700 rig, unless you need more than 16 gb of RAM

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4 minutes ago, Mark_Laidlaw said:

Windows at idle uses around 4-5GB of RAM, so 16GB seems to be kind of the minimum in 2020

I don't use it for gaming, but yeah 8g does struggle when browsing webs with lots of tabs open. But still can get by,un-smoothly.

[Action_Johnson]

Honestly this all seems like a bad idea. It sounds like you'll have the capacity, but lousy speed and latency. 2666 CL19 sucks, and 3200 CL20 doesn't really sound any better

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

They're both quite nice rigs

But if I had to pick one, I'd pick the 3800x as my main rig, and use 2x8gb 3200 there, and leave the 1x8gb in the 9700 rig, unless you need more than 16 gb of RAM

That's what I mean, I bough a 1x16 ram cl19 2666 to slot in. Just which one?

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1 minute ago, Action_Johnson said:

Honestly this all seems like a bad idea. It sounds like you'll have the capacity, but lousy speed and latency. 2666 CL19 sucks, and 3200 CL20 doesn't really sound any better

Yeah, not for gmaing

[Moonzy]

Just now, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

That's what I mean, I bough a 1x16 ram cl19 2666 to slot in. Just which one?

Uhm... Do you need more than 16gb on the 3800x? If yes then slot it in there

If not, then slot it into the 9700 rig?

[Mark_Laidlaw]

Put the single 16GB 2666Mhz CL19 stick in the intel machine. But the dual channel kit in the AMD one

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

Uhm... Do you need more than 16gb on the 3800x? If yes then slot it in there

If not, then slot it into the 9700 rig?

I just want ta smoother experience, as for capacity I do hate tabs reloading and the lags, the AMD pc1 does not reload that often, but still do a bit especially I hav ea habit of opening lots of tabs, but it happen rarely so yrah, jsut wondering which will perform best with my two options.

[Action_Johnson]

5 minutes ago, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

Yeah, not for gmaing

Doesn't matter. Latency is latency. If you want "a smooth experience" don't go mixing and matching unlike ram kits. Stick to low latency decently clocked memory of like sticks running in dual/triple/quad channel.

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

I just want ta smoother experience, as for capacity I do hate tabs reloading and the lags, the AMD pc1 does not reload that often, but still do a bit especially I hav ea habit of opening lots of tabs, but it happen rarely so yrah, jsut wondering which will perform best with my two options.

If you don't game and just web browser

U can't see you using all 16gb, unless you do then the answer is clear

But I also can't see any harm in lowering the clock speed either, so there's no harm having more RAM

 

So tl;dr, you can do whatever you wish based on whether you need more than 16gb RAM or not

If you do not know, then just put 24gb in the 3800x rig and run them at 2666

and 2x8 in the 9700 rig and run them at 3200

 

That way both rig will have enough RAM for you to browse the web

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4 hours ago, Mark_Laidlaw said:

Put the single 16GB 2666Mhz CL19 stick in the intel machine. But the dual channel kit in the AMD one

They will be both dual channel, 

The options are: one will be 8+16 at 2666 cl20 OR 8 + 16 at 2666 cl 19. I ONLY HAVE ONE 1X16G 2666cl19 I will install.

Or I can leave 8+8 g 3200 cl20 as it is and make the other one with the second option.

 

3 hours ago, Moonzy said:

If you don't game and just web browser

U can't see you using all 16gb, unless you do then the answer is clear

But I also can't see any harm in lowering the clock speed either, so there's no harm having more RAM

 

So tl;dr, you can do whatever you wish based on whether you need more than 16gb RAM or not

If you do not know, then just put 24gb in the 3800x rig and run them at 2666

and 2x8 in the 9700 rig and run them at 3200

 

That way both rig will have enough RAM for you to browse the web

Thanks I guess it comes down to 24g 2666 at cl19 vs 3200 16g at cl 20 

 

On a side note, I just dismantle my gaming rig some months before and plan to get a new one once I can get the components in a couple months I think.

 

 

So hmm. which one would you chose? @Mark_Laidlaw @Action_Johnson @Moonzy

[Moonzy]

5 minutes ago, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

 

So hmm. which one would you chose? @Mark_Laidlaw @Action_Johnson @Moonzy

3800x: 2x8 3200 cl20

9700 : 8+16 2666

 

It doesn't really matter anyways, as long as you get 16gb it's good enough for web browsing

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3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

3800x: 2x8 3200 cl20

9700 : 8+16 2666

 

It doesn't really matter anyways, as long as you get 16gb it's good enough for web browsing

While, it's not just for browsing, but most of the work at home stuff is web based so. A bit of file transfers here and there, presentations, MS office suits, other productivity related apps and suits, zoom, MS teams etc. 

[Moonzy]

Just now, We Didnt_t start_the_fire said:

While, it's not just for browsing, but most of the work at home stuff is web based so. A bit of file transfers here and there, presentations, MS office suits, other productivity related apps and suits, zoom, MS teams etc. 

Yea, that's fine, as long as you don't need the capacity

 

The RAM speed doesn't make much of a difference for these tasks

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30 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

Yea, that's fine, as long as you don't need the capacity

 

The RAM speed doesn't make much of a difference for these tasks

Ok,but I have to chose one though, I decided to based on what reload a web page faster. 

Frequency or Cas speed in the final decision I guess. Thanks. 

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I have posted before but the post was a bit confusing and convoluted so this one will make it simple.

 help me chose:

• Edit: Emphasis: not for gaming with those ones, and just in general which one is more import. fr.or cl.?

 

Dual ch, 1x8g + 1x16g 2666 cas 19

OR

Dual ch. 2x8 3200 cas 20

?

[GDRRiley]

2x8 3200 cas <15 or 3600 C16. cas20 is sad

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6 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

2x8 3200 cas <15 or 3600 C16. cas20 is sad

Bless the comment, but not helping. Not for gaming. Help me chose between them.