6800XT build

[Mling]

I just pre-ordered a  Sapphire Nitro 6800XT. XD

Do I need to upgrade my Ryzen 2600 CPU? 

I'm looking at the 5800X with the MSI MAG B550M motherboard. Total cost for the CPU+motherboard upgrade will be  NZD$1144. Is there a cheaper intel alternative?

 

Budget (including currency):  2000 NZD

Country:  NZ

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  fallout 4, dying light 2, half life alyx, doom vfr

Other details existing parts:

msi mortar titanium b450

ryzen 2600

32gb  DDR4 ram

5700XT AMD

2X 1TB m2 SSD 

1080p 144Hz monitor

1000W powersupply

speakers, keyboard & mouse 

Scythe twin tower heatsink

silverstone mATX case

2X 2TB hard drives.

Valve VR headset.

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Mling
incorrect part listed

[Duckster]

If I remember correctly, 5800x is slower in games than 5600x but is better is multi threaded workloads. Additionally, with the 5000 series, AMD pulled ahead of Intel. However, Intel might be faster for gaming with their new Rocket Lake cpus.

TLDR: AMD= 5600x recommended Intel= atleast wait for rocket lake cpus

[Mling]

5 minutes ago, Duckster said:

TLDR: AMD= 5600x recommended Intel= atleast wait for rocket lake cpus

im just playing games. My new GPU wont arrive until the end of Jan

[boggy77]

i'd get a 5600x, no need for a new motherboard, just use it with your tomahawk

[SavageNeo]

6 hours ago, Duckster said:

5800x is slower in games than 5600x

5800x is actually as fast or just little better than 5600x since it has little higher clocks

[Duckster]

2 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

5800x is actually as fast or just little better than 5600x since it has little higher clocks

I did a little more research, and I agree. However, the 5800x is only a few frames higher in games than the 5600x. Mling just wants to play games so he doesn't need the extra cores and threads. A 150$ premium for 10 fps and extra cores you don't need isn't worth it in my opinion. At the end of the day though, it's your money and your opinion and maybe you want to, for example, edit videos later, in which you should get 5800x.

 

TLDR: gaming value = 5600x gaming and editing value = 5800x

[Mling]

12 hours ago, boggy77 said:

i'd get a 5600x, no need for a new motherboard, just use it with your tomahawk

what does my motherboard work with the new gen? what magic is this!

I might actually buy a new motherboard as the one im looking at has pcie4 and built in wifi.

[boggy77]

36 minutes ago, Mling said:

what does my motherboard work with the new gen? what magic is this!

I might actually buy a new motherboard as the one im looking at has pcie4 and built in wifi.

yeah with a bios update.

[Mling]

3 hours ago, boggy77 said:

yeah with a bios update.

I wrote down my motherboard wrong! I dont have the tomohawk. I have the mortar titanium. It has an update for 3000 series but no recent update for 5000 series. Latest update was back in June. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

I think I will need a new motherboard.

[Mling]

16 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

5800x is actually as fast or just little better than 5600x since it has little higher clocks

but do i need a 5800x? I might connect up a youtube account and do some streaming, but i will def not have time for editing. It's quite a big difference in price.

[expiredbiscuit]

35 minutes ago, Mling said:

I wrote down my motherboard wrong! I dont have the tomohawk. I have the mortar titanium. It has an update for 3000 series but no recent update for 5000 series. Latest update was back in June. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

I think I will need a new motherboard.

No, you really don't need the 5800x. For both gaming and streaming the 5600x with the 6800XT will be sufficient. But, as Duckster mentioned it is worth waiting for the Intel Rocket Lake cpus. As Intel have their backs against the wall, there might be a price cut if there is no serious performance uplifts.

36 minutes ago, Mling said:

I wrote down my motherboard wrong! I dont have the tomohawk. I have the mortar titanium. It has an update for 3000 series but no recent update for 5000 series. Latest update was back in June. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

I think I will need a new motherboard.

Your model should also get a bios update in time as the 400 series chipset is officially supported. The new 500 series motherboard will give you a slight performance increase if you really want the maximum performance out of the all AMD pairing of your CPU and GPU due to SAM (Smart Access Memory).

[Mling]

4 hours ago, expiredbiscuit said:

Your model should also get a bios update in time as the 400 series chipset is officially supported. The new 500 series motherboard will give you a slight performance increase if you really want the maximum performance out of the all AMD pairing of your CPU and GPU due to SAM (Smart Access Memory).

yea i ended up getting a new motherboard coz i also wanted some better ram. I can afford it so i figured why not max everything out.

[Gaires]

It's funny how no one asked you about your resolution. Because at 4k I doubt your 2600 would bottleneck the 6800xt, even at 1440p might be fine.

 

As for 5600x vs 5800x, I would have chosen 5800x just because new consoled are also 8 core 16 threads, so it should last you longer as new games start to better utilize the extra cores and threads.

[Mling]

1 hour ago, Gaires said:

It's funny how no one asked you about your resolution. Because at 4k I doubt your 2600 would bottleneck the 6800xt, even at 1440p might be fine.

 

As for 5600x vs 5800x, I would have chosen 5800x just because new consoled are also 8 core 16 threads, so it should last you longer as new games start to better utilize the extra cores and threads.

its in my OP im using 1080p 144Hz and VR

[Gaires]

1 minute ago, Mling said:

its in my OP im using 1080p 144Hz and VR

Oh, my bad. I usually just skimp trough the long spec sheets and look for the relevant parts. (Usually cpu & gpu)

 

You might be bottlenecked in 1080p even with the new cpu, so if you have microstuttering with your new parts I would suggest upgrading the monitor.