Posted November 8, 2020 Hello everyone, I'm planning to buy Ryzen 9 5950X CPU but I can't really decide which ram speed I should opt for. 32GB 3200Mhz 16-18-18-38 seems really good for price/performance ratio - PNY 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz CL16 XLR8 Gaming (MD32GK2D4320016XR) is being sold at really great price. ~530zł here in Poland (1$ = 3,8194zł). What are your thoughts? Is it worth to invest extra money to get 3600Mhz RAM? Or even 4000Mhz? Regards, WS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 8, 2020 Depends on what sort of prices you're getting in Poland. Your high budget (at least from what I can tell with a 5950x) can help soak in more pricey memory but in general, going past 3733 really starts to rip a hole on your pocket. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 8, 2020 Author Well, 32GB 3200MHz is around 530zł, while cheapest 3600Mhz CL17 is around 710zł. I don't know if it's worth it to pay more. Performance difference is rather small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 8, 2020 Author 16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: Depends on what sort of prices you're getting in Poland. Your high budget (at least from what I can tell with a 5950x) can help soak in more pricey memory but in general, going past 3733 really starts to rip a hole on your pocket. Actually I've just found 3600Mhz RAM 17-19-19 for 629zł, so that is a solid deal as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 9, 2020 5 hours ago, WojciechSasky said: Actually I've just found 3600Mhz RAM 17-19-19 for 629zł, so that is a solid deal as well! 17-19-19 is really quite bad timings at 3600. If you're getting a 3600 kit, make sure it has 16-16-16-36 timings as the default XMP. It also shouldn't be very expensive either. If you can't swing the price, I'd recommend dropping the CPU down to a 5900X, and getting 4 sticks of 3600 16-16-16-36, as that will result in similar performance in all but the most niche compute workloads, and it should actually be less expensive than just the 5950X. CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30 Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1 https://hwbot.org/submission/4497882_btgbullseye_gpupi_v3.3___32b_radeon_rx_5700_xt_13min_37sec_848ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 9, 2020 Author 15 hours ago, BTGbullseye said: 17-19-19 is really quite bad timings at 3600. If you're getting a 3600 kit, make sure it has 16-16-16-36 timings as the default XMP. It also shouldn't be very expensive either. If you can't swing the price, I'd recommend dropping the CPU down to a 5900X, and getting 4 sticks of 3600 16-16-16-36, as that will result in similar performance in all but the most niche compute workloads, and it should actually be less expensive than just the 5950X. CL16 16-16-16-36 3600 RAM is crazy expensive in Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 9, 2020 AMD's website for the 5950x says 3200Mhz, so that's what I bought (it arrived today). I can't speak to how well it'll do since I haven't been able to buy the CPU itself yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 9, 2020 Just buy any good b-die or (micron) e-die kit and manually oc it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, WojciechSasky said: CL16 16-16-16-36 3600 RAM is crazy expensive in Poland. See if the 3200 14-14-14 is better priced. It's the same RAM, and you can overclock it to 3600 16-16-16 easily. CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30 Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1 https://hwbot.org/submission/4497882_btgbullseye_gpupi_v3.3___32b_radeon_rx_5700_xt_13min_37sec_848ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 10, 2020 Author 10 hours ago, BTGbullseye said: See if the 3200 14-14-14 is better priced. It's the same RAM, and you can overclock it to 3600 16-16-16 easily. It's also crazy expensive, almost twice the price I'm getting with this GOODRAM's sticks. 10 hours ago, hwhendhah said: Just buy any good b-die or (micron) e-die kit and manually oc it. 11 hours ago, Sabarok said: AMD's website for the 5950x says 3200Mhz, so that's what I bought (it arrived today). I can't speak to how well it'll do since I haven't been able to buy the CPU itself yet. I'm interested the most in this RAM "GoodRam IRDM, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL17 (IRP-3600D4V64L17/32GDC)" because it costs only about 629zł (1$ = 3,7787zł), it has really good benchmarks and they say it would be easy to go lower with timings. It's Hynix CJR RAM, but I don't know what that really means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 10, 2020 6 hours ago, WojciechSasky said: It's Hynix CJR RAM, but I don't know what that really means. It means that with the best overclocking and timing tightening, (and the absolutely necessary overvolting) it still won't get anywhere near as fast as Samsung b-die with extremely loose timings. CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30 Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1 https://hwbot.org/submission/4497882_btgbullseye_gpupi_v3.3___32b_radeon_rx_5700_xt_13min_37sec_848ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 10, 2020 Author What would be the real difference in performance? I can't pay twice the price for 10% more performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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