New Rig 1k Budget and a life story!

[badiguy420]

Budget (including currency): About 1100 without GPU

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 90% gaming. I play almost all single player games. Not completive or anything, 10% normal stuff (youtube,web,etc)

Other details So I have my case already. Its a ATX case (darkFlash Phantom Black) and CORSAIR iCUE H100i out of the budget. Got both on sale from Newegg when they were shellshock deals. I am going to attempt to buy a Zen 3 5600x here in a few hours. So with those bought (minus the CPU, but its the CPU I want so if I have to wait I will, and I refuse to pay scalper prices for anything. Can't fault them from making money but its just a dirty business to me and refuse to take part) I will have approx. 600 left. I do not need a GPU, I am going to use my RX 580 for a while until I can get a 3070 (or RDNA 2 equivalent when those are out and if they are competitive which I would love to have another team red pc as my first one I built was all red way back in the day lol.) eventually but it does not need to be counted in the total. I have done some research, and I think I understand I want x570, but I don't understand the difference between that and b550. I would like to have as much money left over that's possible. Even if its a 100 bucks, but it can all go if it has too. I do not want to buy used because if it breaks I wont have the money to replace it. So I need warranties. Like in a big way lol. Any help on what board (x570 or b550) is smarter for a longer use case, which ram will pair with said board and the 5600x. Probably most inportant out of all of this, I have an "OK" gaming rig at the moment. I am very willing to wait on deals and things that might help me save a penny here and there. Thank you all very much whoever has the time to read this mess and help anywhere. If not, and you just have advice or anything feel free to let me know! Thanks so much, LTT forum rocks. I have been a lurker here for many many years...

 

Reason: I am a single child who has to live with my parents because they are both sick and disabled. My dad has leukemia, and my mom has to many to list here. I can't work to earn money normally so I do very few and far between odd jobs. I volunteer at a local food bank the only days I could be working. So income is a major issue. I won't have 1000 to blow on a new system for a few years after this so I need to make it last as long as possible, and I understand thats hard to predict. Its taken me about 2 years to get $1000. If my parents don't improve it may take me as long or longer for me to get any kind of money saved.

[jaslion]

Wait you have a 5820k already? That thing is pretty good still especially when you give it an overclock. Not even close to holding your rx580 back in any way shape or form.

 

Also you wanna remove that front panel from your case as there is basically no airflow right now due to it. What is the issue with the current system?

[Downkey]

First of all, i'm sorry to hear about your parents. I can't even imagine what your going through. I hope they get better.

Heres a list w/no gpu for around 775. If you want to reduce the price you can get a cheaper ssd, ram, and psu.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$300.00
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$139.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$69.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$134.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$777.95
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-05 08:44 EST-0500

 

[badiguy420]

Nothing is wrong with the current system. I will probably sell it once I have the new one built. I am upgrading now, because I may not be able to anytime again soon. Right now I have the money and ability to do so. 

[jaslion]

59 minutes ago, badiguy420 said:

Nothing is wrong with the current system. I will probably sell it once I have the new one built. I am upgrading now, because I may not be able to anytime again soon. Right now I have the money and ability to do so. 

But the thing is that the upgrade won't make you game better like at all. The rx 580 + 5820k is a really good pairing and a 5820k can easily max out the 580 in any game so basically this is throwing money at a problem that does not exist. You'd see far more worth for your money by getting a better gpu  and just overclocking the 5820k as they are very easy to oc and get something like a rx6800 (if it's good) or 3070.

 

Unless you need 200+fps because you got one of those silly 240hz monitors I don't see a point in getting a new cpu when your current one is still plenty good. It can easily do 100fps or more at stock and a fair bit more with a simple oc.

 

Also quote people so they see your response.

[badiguy420]

 

 

12 hours ago, jaslion said:

But the thing is that the upgrade won't make you game better like at all. The rx 580 + 5820k is a really good pairing and a 5820k can easily max out the 580 in any game so basically this is throwing money at a problem that does not exist. You'd see far more worth for your money by getting a better gpu  and just overclocking the 5820k as they are very easy to oc and get something like a rx6800 (if it's good) or 3070.

 

Unless you need 200+fps because you got one of those silly 240hz monitors I don't see a point in getting a new cpu when your current one is still plenty good. It can easily do 100fps or more at stock and a fair bit more with a simple oc.

 

Also quote people so they see your response.

But you are not seeing the upgrade the gpu in the future. I get that it would probably be the most bang for my buck at this point. But getting to 500, is a lot easier than getting to 1000. It will likely take me years (3+) as things will likely get worse before they get better. I can get 500 in 2 months to put up for a gpu. It sounds real confusing and its really hard to explain why that is, but trust me it is. So spending the 1000 on upgrading basically everything else is better for me at this time. Plus when I have all the parts eventually I can sell my old system off and may get close to a gpu. The system I currently have I got for pennies off of craigslist. This lady had no idea what she had, and I am not one to argue at a gift horse.

 

For the case, I basically just wanted it for the internals. I do custom fiber glassing in my spare time and will make custom side panels and front eventually

 

I thought I did, I am just not real use to this forum set up and the quoting system.

13 hours ago, Downkey said:

First of all, i'm sorry to hear about your parents. I can't even imagine what your going through. I hope they get better.

Heres a list w/no gpu for around 775. If you want to reduce the price you can get a cheaper ssd, ram, and psu.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$300.00
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$139.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$69.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$134.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$777.95
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-05 08:44 EST-0500

 

Thank you for your thoughts! That looks real solid! I am going to take my SSD out of this system, I have a samsung pro 2tb. But I will for sure need an HD and for sure a m.2. So thanks for those I completly forgot to mention those. Thank you so much! can I ask just for my own edification why b550 over x570? I have watched videos and stuff on it, I can't figure out what the difference is other than the chipset

[thrasher_565]

5 hours ago, badiguy420 said:

 

 

But you are not seeing the upgrade the gpu in the future. I get that it would probably be the most bang for my buck at this point. But getting to 500, is a lot easier than getting to 1000. It will likely take me years (3+) as things will likely get worse before they get better. I can get 500 in 2 months to put up for a gpu. It sounds real confusing and its really hard to explain why that is, but trust me it is. So spending the 1000 on upgrading basically everything else is better for me at this time. Plus when I have all the parts eventually I can sell my old system off and may get close to a gpu. The system I currently have I got for pennies off of craigslist. This lady had no idea what she had, and I am not one to argue at a gift horse.

 

For the case, I basically just wanted it for the internals. I do custom fiber glassing in my spare time and will make custom side panels and front eventually

 

I thought I did, I am just not real use to this forum set up and the quoting system.

Thank you for your thoughts! That looks real solid! I am going to take my SSD out of this system, I have a samsung pro 2tb. But I will for sure need an HD and for sure a m.2. So thanks for those I completly forgot to mention those. Thank you so much! can I ask just for my own edification why b550 over x570? I have watched videos and stuff on it, I can't figure out what the difference is other than the chipset

what there saying is you get more gaming performance now upgrading the gpu now then up grading your cpu. but it all depends on what games you play. some like cpu some like gpu some like both some like ram. pules an rtx 2080 ti is basically the same as an 3070 from what i can tell and cost a hell of a lot cheaper. but i guess you want new so a new 2080ti might no be cheap i guess.

 

that's a cool case has a bit of a air flow problem thow but there mods you can do.

 

that being said the x99 still have some value too it so you could sell it for something at least just depends if you can go with out a pc or not i guess that's why you want to upgrade the pc first before a gpu?

[badiguy420]

6 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

what there saying is you get more gaming performance now upgrading the gpu now then up grading your cpu. but it all depends on what games you play. some like cpu some like gpu some like both some like ram. pules an rtx 2080 ti is basically the same as an 3070 from what i can tell and cost a hell of a lot cheaper. but i guess you want new so a new 2080ti might no be cheap i guess.

 

that's a cool case has a bit of a air flow problem thow but there mods you can do.

 

that being said the x99 still have some value too it so you could sell it for something at least just depends if you can go with out a pc or not i guess that's why you want to upgrade the pc first before a gpu?

Ya i get that, and its kind of hard to explain. Eventually everything will be new. Eventually. Right now I have 1000 dollars so spending 500 to buy just a gpu doesn't make sense to me. Having 1000 is harder to have than 500. Its literally twice as much. The 3070, or maybe a 3080 eventually is the goal (without the RDNA 2 stuff yet, but I will be fine with owning them as long as they are comparable). Like I said it hard to explain or round the circle in my head. Basically I just needed the advise on the other parts of the system not the "why not do this my way" type of thing. I get it, but its not what I was asking.

[jaslion]

I would still just get a high end gpu + a new psu and maybe some more storage. That should be around 800 easily and give you the better experience right now. This will also allow you to wait for the new am5 and whatever intel is up to cpu's and have a system that would last the entire console generation.

 

I think I get what you mean with the money thing. You have 1k now but would feel guilty for keeping the remainder of the money on the side for a future upgrade instead of using it right now for other pressing matters. However a cpu ram board upgrade is easily done for 500 so I'd just go for all the other universal stuff now and wait like a year to get the other stuff.

[badiguy420]

4 hours ago, jaslion said:

I would still just get a high end gpu + a new psu and maybe some more storage. That should be around 800 easily and give you the better experience right now. This will also allow you to wait for the new am5 and whatever intel is up to cpu's and have a system that would last the entire console generation.

 

I think I get what you mean with the money thing. You have 1k now but would feel guilty for keeping the remainder of the money on the side for a future upgrade instead of using it right now for other pressing matters. However a cpu ram board upgrade is easily done for 500 so I'd just go for all the other universal stuff now and wait like a year to get the other stuff.

I ordered the rest I needed today. But thank you for all you info. I like to have as much info to consider all sides!