ryzen 9 3900x or ryzen 9 3900 xt

[O_Bsnacks]

i wanted to know if the 3900xt is more worth it because i wanted to get this for Christmas

my specs are 

ryzen 5 3600 

rx 5700 xt gigabyte gaming oc

msi x470 gaming plus max 

seasonic 650w gm gold 80+

corsair h100i pro xt cooler

256gbwd  m.2 

1tb wd blue  

 

will this processor be good for 1080p 144+ fps 

[MurderM]

uh I am assuming you mean 3600x vs 3600xt, which either would work fine for 1080p. The 3900x would be an absolute slaughter of an overkill purchase for your build LOL. But yeah, 3600x is nice if the price difference between the 3600 isn't too much where you live, if the 3600 is much cheaper just go with that though. Not worth paying much money for a 2% better cpu speed and a better cooler (ryzen is architecturally limited not thermal limited unless heavy OC'ing).

[O_Bsnacks]

but in all seriousness what ones better the 3900x or the 3900xt?

[Jurrunio]

5900x wants to know your address

 

3900xt is just 3900x with a tad better overclocking potential, only worth a tad more as a result.

[MurderM]

What? You do not need a 3900x dude lol. The 3900xt is better but your GPU won't even be able to utilize 10% of that CPU. Get a Ryzen 5 3600 instead and spend more money on a better GPU if anything, or just save some money and get a 3700x if you really wanna future proof. That CPU is USELESS unless you are doing heavy render or professional applications.

[GuacInWhereSunDontShine]

4 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

but in all seriousness what ones better the 3900x or the 3900xt?

The 3900XT is not worth it as it's just a slightly higher clocked 3900X. The 3900XT is technically the better performing option but whether it's worth it over the 3900X is a completely different ball game. The 3900X would be the better buy, but if you could get the 3900XT cheaper, get that instead. Though I have to ask - is your current config not running at 144FPS+ at 1080p? What games would you be playing, AAA titles or esports ones? If you're looking for better performance, I'd argue a better GPU would be the best option (although the 5700XT is already pretty good), the 3600 is a very capable gaming CPU.

[MurderM]

Just now, Sinsue said:

The 3900XT is not worth it as it's just a slightly higher clocked 3900X. A 3900X would be the better buy, but I have to ask - is your current config not running at 144FPS+ at 1080p? What games would you be playing, AAA titles or esports ones? If you're looking for better performance, I'd argue a better GPU would be the best option (although the 5700XT is already pretty good), the 3600 is a very capable gaming CPU.

He won't even utilize 50% of a Ryzen 3600 if you look at benchmarks with that GPU. That notion that he needs a 3900x unless he is doing multiple hours of heavy video rendering a day is just silly for 1080p 144hz. 1080p 240hz or 360hz is a different story.

[O_Bsnacks]

1 minute ago, Sinsue said:

The 3900XT is not worth it as it's just a slightly higher clocked 3900X. A 3900X would be the better buy, but I have to ask - is your current config not running at 144FPS+ at 1080p? What games would you be playing, AAA titles or esports ones? If you're looking for better performance, I'd argue a better GPU would be the best option (although the 5700XT is already pretty good), the 3600 is a very capable gaming CPU.

when i play modern warfare i cant play with max settings and get 144+ fps and when i played the new cold war beta i could barely stay at 144+ fps

[MurderM]

Just now, O_Bsnacks said:

when i play modern warfare i cant play with max settings and get 144+ fps and when i played the new cold war beta i could barely stay at 144+ fps

You need a better GPU then.

[GuacInWhereSunDontShine]

2 minutes ago, MurderM said:

He won't even utilize 50% of a Ryzen 3600 if you look at benchmarks with that GPU. That notion that he needs a 3900x unless he is doing multiple hours of heavy video rendering a day is just silly for 1080p 144hz. 1080p 240hz or 360hz is a different story.

As said at the end of my post, I stated that a GPU would be the better buy rather than a CPU, and that the 3600 is a very capable gaming CPU. 

[O_Bsnacks]

1 minute ago, MurderM said:

You need a better GPU then.

i was going to get the rtx 3070 but my cpu would bottleneck it

 

[MurderM]

Just now, O_Bsnacks said:

i was going to get the rtx 3070 but my cpu would bottleneck it

 

It will not.

[O_Bsnacks]

1 minute ago, MurderM said:

It will not.

have you seen the video on YouTube with ryzen 5 3600 and the rtx 3070 its not that good

 

[O_Bsnacks]

2 minutes ago, MurderM said:

It will not.

and i rather wait for the new 6000 series gpus because i would get the ryzen 9 3900x plus one of those new gpus and then i wont have to upgrade for a long time

[MurderM]

2 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

and i rather wait for the new 6000 series gpus because i would get the ryzen 9 3900x plus one of those new gpus and then i wont have to upgrade for a long time

Look. https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-intel-core-i9-10900k/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?res=1-vs-1&quality=ultra-vs-ultra&ram=16-vs-32&ramspeed=3200-vs-3800

 

It averages 160fps 1080p full ultra.

[O_Bsnacks]

2 minutes ago, MurderM said:

Look. https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-intel-core-i9-10900k/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?res=1-vs-1&quality=ultra-vs-ultra&ram=16-vs-32&ramspeed=3200-vs-3800

 

It averages 160fps 1080p.

but i kinda want to be the guy that has the i9-10900k because he doesn't have to worry about upgrading for a long time 

[Mateyyy]

6 minutes ago, MurderM said:

It will not.

It certainly will "bottleneck" a 3070 at 1080p or even 1440p, depending on the game. Same thing applies to pretty much any Zen 2 CPU vs Intel because of overhead caused likely by latency.

Will said "bottleneck" be major and impact the gaming experience? No - but that wasn't the question.

[MurderM]

Just now, O_Bsnacks said:

but i kinda want to be the guy that has the i9-10900k because he doesn't have to worry about upgrading for a long time 

At this point do whatever ya want lol, if you want on 180 fps on your freesync/gsync 144hz monitor for the pur[pose of saying you have it without being to see it go for it

[MurderM]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

It certainly will "bottleneck" a 3070 at 1080p or even 1440p, depending on the game. Same thing applies to pretty much any Zen 2 CPU vs Intel because of overhead caused likely by latency.

Will said "bottleneck" be major and impact the gaming experience? No - but that wasn't the question.

Please read. https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-intel-core-i9-10900k/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?res=1-vs-1&quality=ultra-vs-ultra&ram=16-vs-32&ramspeed=3200-vs-3800 He has a 144hz gsync/feesync monitor. He can't even see above 144hz literally.

[Mateyyy]

4 minutes ago, MurderM said:

Please read. https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/amd-ryzen-5-3600-vs-intel-core-i9-10900k/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070?res=1-vs-1&quality=ultra-vs-ultra&ram=16-vs-32&ramspeed=3200-vs-3800 

Maybe don't use bullshit UserBenchmark looking websites as sources before telling other people "please read".

 

4 minutes ago, MurderM said:

He has a 144hz gsync/feesync monitor. He can't even see above 144hz literally.

Generally, I'm assuming, people mean by "bottleneck" whether (in this case) their CPU will prevent their GPU from running at its full potential. 

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Does that look like allowing the GPU run to its full potential to you?

[MurderM]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Maybe don't use bullshit UserBenchmark looking websites as sources before telling other people "please read".

 

Generally, I'm assuming, people mean by "bottleneck" whether (in this case) their CPU will prevent their GPU from running at its full potential. 

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Does that look like allowing the GPU run to its full potential to you?

Stop speaking out of your ass and post some facts, mine shows it is.

[MurderM]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Maybe don't use bullshit UserBenchmark looking websites as sources before telling other people "please read".

 

Generally, I'm assuming, people mean by "bottleneck" whether (in this case) their CPU will prevent their GPU from running at its full potential. 

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Does that look like allowing the GPU run to its full potential to you?

You are the typical "comment just to comment" even though you don't know shit type user.

[Mateyyy]

Just now, MurderM said:

You are the typical "comment just to comment" even though you don't know shit type user.

No need to be so hard on yourself.