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5600x vs 3900x

I know this is complete speculations because the 5600x isn't out yet. However my friend offered me his 3900x for the same price as the the 5600x is going to be ($300). I have a b450 board so I would have to wait till January for the 5600x anyways. On paper it looks like the 3900x is still better, same base clock but more cores/threads, but i have no idea.

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1 hour ago, DevilsHand676 said:

I know this is complete speculations because the 5600x isn't out yet. However my friend offered me his 3900x for the same price as the the 5600x is going to be ($300). I have a b450 board so I would have to wait till January for the 5600x anyways. On paper it looks like the 3900x is still better, same base clock but more cores/threads, but i have no idea.

If you expect to achieve the highest framerate possible in all games and you have the GPU to push for that then the 5600X would be beneficial, but otherwise you won't notice a difference between the 5600X and the 3900X when they're both being GPU bottlenecked, but you'd see a huge performance uplift in productivity applications that are able to utilize all of the cores because the 3900X has double the amount of them and an IPC uplift won't get close to that.

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lower single thread performance for games, most likely

but like... if you're cpu thread limited by 3900x, most games are already running above 100-150fps

at which point, do you even care if it's 20fps less than 5600x?

 

i would totally grab it, as i cant see why it'll be significantly worse, and at the same time, probably have much much better multi thread performance

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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4 minutes ago, .Apex. said:

If you don't expect to achieve the highest framerate possible in all games and you have the GPU to push for that then the 5600X would be beneficial, but otherwise you won't notice a difference between the 5600X and the 3900X when they're both being GPU bottlenecked, but you'd see a huge performance uplift in productivity applications that are able to utilize all of the cores because the 3900X has double the amount of them and an IPC uplift won't get close to that.

I'm using a 2070 Super and a 1600x at the moment. I mostly game (at 1080p) but do stream and video edit from time to time. I'm not sure if those extra cores would be really beneficial too me. 

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16 minutes ago, dizmo said:

144hz or 60hz?

144hz at 1080p. I have a 1600x and 2070S currently. 

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39 minutes ago, DevilsHand676 said:

I know this is complete speculations because the 5600x isn't out yet. However my friend offered me his 3900x for the same price as the the 5600x is going to be ($300). I have a b450 board so I would have to wait till January for the 5600x anyways. On paper it looks like the 3900x is still better, same base clock but more cores/threads, but i have no idea.

Well, what your use case? If you need the extra cores/threads go for the 3900x, otherwise you may be able to get away with a 5600x/5600. Personally, I'd say go 3900x. However, Because you have a b450 board, it may not get the required bios update pushed to it for zen 3. 

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11 minutes ago, LinusTechTips- said:

Well, what your use case? If you need the extra cores/threads go for the 3900x, otherwise you may be able to get away with a 5600x/5600. Personally, I'd say go 3900x. However, Because you have a b450 board, it may not get the required bios update pushed to it for zen 3. 

I'm using a 2070 Super and a 1600x at the moment. I mostly game (at 1080p) but do stream and video edit from time to time. I'm not sure if those extra cores would be really beneficial too me. 

CPU- Ryzen 9 3900x
CPU Cooler- Artic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm
GPU-  EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC ULTRA
RAM- CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 32GB 3200Mhz 
PSU- Cooler Master MasterWatt 650 Watt
HDD- WD Blue 4TB
SSD- SanDisk Ultra II 500GB SATA III
Case- Custom Made Desk
Motherboard- ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming

Microphone- Blue Snowball Ice
Headphones- Razer Nari Ultimate
Webcam- Logitech c270
Monitors- MSI Optix MAG24C and Acer KA240HQ Abid
Mouse- Corsair Nightsword RGB
Keyboard- Corsair K95 RGB Platinum MX Speed

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38 minutes ago, DevilsHand676 said:

I'm using a 2070 Super and a 1600x at the moment. I mostly game (at 1080p) but do stream and video edit from time to time. I'm not sure if those extra cores would be really beneficial too me. 

Id think most Games in a couple years, already seen today will be 8core aware.

Id go 3900x, 5700/5900xx series as a dropin in a few years if needing an upgrade.

Pretty sure both will Max a 2070Super in 99%cases.

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