i7 477K @4.2GHz + Sapphire RX5700XT Pulse bottleneck?

[axellslade]

Hi guys!

 

As the title says, will my i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz bottleneck an RX 5700XT Pulse @1815 MHz?

 

Here's my specs

i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz This can go up to 4.8 GHz on "regular days" here in Brazil, I dial it back to 4.2 GHz because summer is approaching and it overheats.

Coolermaster Hyper 212X Cooler

AMD Radeon RX 5700XT Pulse @ Boost: 1925 MHz Game: 1815 MHz Base: 1670 MHz My guess I'll be playing safe at Game mode(1815 MHz) because of the above factor.

16GB of Corsair DDR3 2400 C11 memory

Gigabyte Z87X-UD7 TH Motherboard

XFX 850 W Black Edition PSU

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB for Windows and some games

WD Black 2TB HDD for Storage

 

My monitor right now is an FHD TV: Samsung T260HD

 

I plan to play with those configs @ 1920x1080p and no higher.

 

Any info is appreciated.

[BTGbullseye]

1 minute ago, axellslade said:

As the title says, will my i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz bottleneck an RX 5700XT Pulse @1815 MHz?

 

@ 1920x1080p and no higher.

Depends on the games/software you intend to use. The CPU is on the lower end of capable though.

[Bombastinator]

58 minutes ago, axellslade said:

Hi guys!

 

As the title says, will my i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz bottleneck an RX 5700XT Pulse @1815 MHz?

 

Here's my specs

i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz This can go up to 4.8 GHz on "regular days" here in Brazil, I dial it back to 4.2 GHz because summer is approaching and it overheats.

Coolermaster Hyper 212X Cooler

AMD Radeon RX 5700XT Pulse @ Boost: 1925 MHz Game: 1815 MHz Base: 1670 MHz My guess I'll be playing safe at Game mode(1815 MHz) because of the above factor.

16GB of Corsair DDR3 2400 C11 memory

Gigabyte Z87X-UD7 TH Motherboard

XFX 850 W Black Edition PSU

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB for Windows and some games

WD Black 2TB HDD for Storage

 

My monitor right now is an FHD TV: Samsung T260HD

 

I plan to play with those configs @ 1920x1080p and no higher.

 

Any info is appreciated.

I would believe your cpu might be maxed vs your gpu.  I’ve got a 4770k @4.0(yeah I know, it sucks) also your memory is faster than mine. I got a z97 board and SSDs though. I run 80% burying a non oc rx580 in some games.  It kinda depends on the game.  Does it in fallout4 iirc.

[axellslade]

3 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Depends on the games/software you intend to use. The CPU is on the lower end of capable though.

Well, I guess it will have to do for some 6+ months for now. I plan to upgrade to a Ryzen 5 3600 + B550 Motherboard later next year.

I'll be playing some RDR2, AC: Vallhala, Cyberpunk 2077, Immortals Fenyx Rising and (maybe) Godfall if I get it for free with the card(it's still pending approval by the store).

2 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I would believe your cpu might be maxed vs your gpu.  I’ve got a 4770k @4.0(yeah I know, it sucks) also your memory is faster than mine. I got a z97 board and SSDs though. I run 80% burying a non oc rx580 in some games.  It kinda depends on the game.  Does it in fallout4 iirc.

Thanks for the tip. I had an XFX RX 480 BE OC before this, and I could play pretty much any game on medium or above depending on the game, no new(2018+) games though. BUT it would overheat and softlock games pretty frequently if I went overboard on the graphics.

[Mick Naughty]

Cpu won’t hold up. But comes down to the games and expected FPS. 
Mine holds back all of my cards but could always be worse. 

[DoctorNick]

Delid 4770k?

[axellslade]

6 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Delid 4770k?

Nope. Think if I delidded it, I could possibly go past the 4.8GHz mark even on hot days like we had last week 40 ºC/ 101 ºF.

[Mick Naughty]

Delided mine. It’s not much of an overclocker, only hitting 4.3 but never goes past 40c being stuck at 100% on all cores for hours. 

[Darkseth]

9 hours ago, axellslade said:

Hi guys!

 

As the title says, will my i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz bottleneck an RX 5700XT Pulse @1815 MHz?

(This should honestly be Pinned at the Top, with blinking Neon signs around it)

This answer can NOT be answered at all. What bottlenecks, and by how much depends on which Software you use, and which  Settings you use.

Do you play your Games on 640p and Low? Then your CPU will probably bottleneck most games (can't even be sure that it will be all).

Do you play in 4k Ultra? Then yoour GPU probably won't reach high enough fps numbers, that your CPU could bottleneck.

 

Here is how it works. The CPU calculates all the data that is needed (for a Frame). When the CPU is done doing that, it gives the data over to the GPU, and the GPU calculates a Frame out of that.

If the GPU is extremely fast, it's done BEFORE the CPU can deliver the second frame. This is how your CPU bottlenecks.

If your GPU is working HARD (4k Ultra), it takes some time untill the Frame is finished. The CPU doesn't even need to bother as much, and can deliver all the Data needed for the next frame in time. This way, your GPU is bottlenecking. Because a faster GPU could render faster, and get you more fps. Because the CPU "could" deliver more data faster.

 

 

That way.. There is always a Bottleneck. It's not possible to not have one, otherwise you would have literaly unlimited fps.

 

Ask yourself a different Question: Does your CPU deliver enough frames for YOU? If yes, it doesn't matter if your GPU is bottlenecked or not. You have enough fps. Period.

If you just need 80 fps, your CPU can deliver 100, and your GPU can deliver 150. You have your desired fps. Be happy. Your CPU will run cooler and quieter, because it doesn't need 100% to deliver what you need.

Or shift the bottleneck. Use Virtual Super resolution to render the Image in a higher resolution, or increase Graphic settings.

 

If your CPU does NOT deliver enough fps for YOU, then a GPU isn't the problem at all. No GPU is, not a cheap one, not the most expensive and quick one. No matter which GPU you put in your Computer, it will not change the "max possible fps" your CPU can deliver.

In this Case, you would have to upgrade your CPU anyway. But this step doesn't change which GPU you're going to buy, right?

 

 

People think way too much about this "bottleneck" topic, and in most cases, even have a wrong way of thinking about that.

And what i want to achieve with this Post is just that. Try a different Approach to the "Bottleneck" Topic.

 

 

So in short: If you plan on buying a 5700 XT into your System (but maybe wait for the RTX 3060, or AMD's 6000s), because that's the Price you want to spend, and the allround performance you want to have, then just get it, play, and have Fun.

You can check for each Game how it runs, and where the bottleneck is. And then you can optimize your Settings, or think about what you can do about that, if you HAVE to do anything about that.