Which CPU to go with?

[Nicolai Mortensen]

Hi guys

 

I'm having some problems deciding which CPU to go with, as in I have no clue at all. I want to play some video games, edit some photos and run my PC through a thunderbolt cable, because I really don't want to listen to it. So would AMD or Intel be best suited and which lineup?

 

Best regards

[Tan3l6]

For CPU-intensive applications AMD has better performance/value. Intel is only a bit better in gaming in some price ranges.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

For CPU-intensive applications AMD has better performance/value. Intel is only a bit better in gaming in most price ranges.

AMD it is then. Ryzen 5/7/9?

[Haro]

Budget? this is a really vague question in all honesty, heck what board do you already have? if you don't already have one, budget for the whole build? 

[Tan3l6]

Just now, Nicolai Mortensen said:

AMD it is then. Ryzen 5/7/9?

Depends on the budget.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Budget? this is a really vague question in all honesty, heck what board do you already have? if you don't already have one, budget for the whole build? 

I don't have a board yet, I'm planning a completely new build. The budget is best bang for the buck really. I'm too busy with studies to play often and I don't have a ton of money as a student. Only thing that's a must, is the thunderbolt3 business, as I really cannot stand the hum of a pc.

[Cyracus]

Last I knew very few mobos on amd side have thunderbolt 3, double and triple check on that front.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

Just now, Cyracus said:

Last I knew very few mobos on amd side have thunderbolt 3, double and triple check on that front.

Was thinking in the worst case scenario, I could get an add in card like the titan ridge

[Cyracus]

Just now, Nicolai Mortensen said:

Was thinking in the worst case scenario, I could get an add in card like the titan ridge

completely forgot about add in cards

[Haro]

1 hour ago, Nicolai Mortensen said:

I'm planning a completely new build.

Well as said above, not a lot of AMD boards have  tb3 port on the rear, though budget for a build? without a number it's kind of hard to make anything. 

[Jakub_NF]

If the photo editing is nothing heavy and you will focus more on games then go with i5-9600k + z390 mobo (the i5-10600k + z490 is newer and more expensive but hardly any better). If the editing is more intensive and you do light gaming on the side then you might look into the r5 3600 + b450. I don't know what your budget is but those two are roughly the same price and good for two different things, you can go up or down from here.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

Just now, Cyracus said:

completely forgot about add in cards

I'll be honest, I'd prefer a motherboard with a displayport in and a thunderbolt3 port, which can do that funny business the titan ridge can, but I don't know if that even is a thing.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Well as said above, not a lot of AMD boards have  tb3 port on the rear, though budget for a build? without a number it's kind of hard to make anything. 

About 1.200-1.500 USD I guess, in total for a board, cpu, psu, ram, gpu.

 

2 minutes ago, Jakub_NF said:

If the photo editing is nothing heavy and you will focus more on games then go with i5-9600k + z390 mobo (the i5-10600k + z490 is newer and more expensive but hardly any better). If the editing is more intensive and you do light gaming on the side then you might look into the r5 3600 + b450. I don't know what your budget is but those two are roughly the same price and good for two different things, you can go up or down from here.

It's raw photos with multiple layers, tend to pin my laptop pretty good. Especially when I'm contracted to do timelapses, but that's more the compiling of the video.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

I would wait for ryzen 4th gen, but if you do now, a 3700x probably, for what you said.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

Just now, HelpfulTechWizard said:

I would wait for ryzen 4th gen, but if you do now, a 3700x probably, for what you said.

When is the 4th gen launching?

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, Nicolai Mortensen said:

When is the 4th gen launching?

its announcing in about 2 weeks, and would probably be available in about one month.

[Nicolai Mortensen]

1 minute ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

its announcing in about 2 weeks, and would probably be available in about one month.

I can wait for that, thanks dude

[Jakub_NF]

2 minutes ago, Nicolai Mortensen said:

About 1.200-1.500 USD I guess, in total for a board, cpu, psu, ram, gpu.

 

It's raw photos with multiple layers, tend to pin my laptop pretty good. Especially when I'm contracted to do timelapses, but that's more the compiling of the video.

With that budget you could easily go for the i7-10700k with a z490 mobo (you can find ones with thunderbolt 3 in the 150-190 usd range). Other option is r7 3700 which is 50-60 usd cheaper but quite a bit slower as well and you might have a problem with finding a decent mobo with the features you need.  

[Nicolai Mortensen]

Just now, Jakub_NF said:

With that budget you could easily go for the i7-10700k with a z490 mobo (you can find ones with thunderbolt 3 in the 150-190 usd range). Other option is r7 3700 which is 50-60 usd cheaper but quite a bit slower as well and you might have a problem with finding a decent mobo with the features you need.  

Should have explain this, I live in Denmark and IT is about 15-25% more expensive here than anywhere else I've ever seen. I can't even find an i7-10700K. (we've got a website that puts almost all IT shops on the same site). The i7-9700K is currently 2.903 DKK (about 355 USD).

[Haro]

1 hour ago, Nicolai Mortensen said:

About 1.200-1.500 USD

Well you could wait for zen 3, and to check what it has to offer and then decide. 

But..

Spoiler

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$199.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 VISION D ATX AM4 Motherboard	$259.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$116.49 @ Staples
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$790.42
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-27 14:35 EDT-0400

 

The vision G isn't really the best board especially at that price, but it has a TB3 port, and you can get a 3070 which would add up to around 1300-1500 bucks. If you can just get an expansion card for TB3, you could go with the B550 a pro or the aorus pro or the b550 strix f or the b550 tomahawk and those are decent. 

Depending on the scale of the project.. 

Spoiler

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 VISION D ATX AM4 Motherboard	$259.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$116.49 @ Staples
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$885.42
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-27 14:37 EDT-0400

 

You could go with a 3700x if needed and you could go with 32 gigs if needed. 

1 hour ago, Jakub_NF said:

then go with i5-9600k + z390 mobo (the i5-10600k + z490 is newer and more expensive but hardly any better).

What?

[Nicolai Mortensen]

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

The vision G isn't really the best board especially at that price, but it has a TB3 port, and you can get a 3070 which would add up to around 1300-1500 bucks. If you can just get an expansion card for TB3, you could go with the B550 a pro or the aorus pro or the b550 strix f or the b550 tomahawk and those are decent. 

Depending on the scale of the project.. 

The scale is just a workstation/game pc (in that order), to be housed somewhere else than where I have to listen to it. Thanks a ton, that's given me something to work from

[Jakub_NF]

3 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 VISION D ATX AM4 Motherboard	$259.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$116.49 @ Staples
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$885.42
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-27 14:37 EDT-0400

 

 

What?

What's wrong with that suggestion?

[Haro]

6 hours ago, Jakub_NF said:

What's wrong with that suggestion?

It's a dead platform, and comet lake is simply better, not "hardly any better". 

[Jakub_NF]

11 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

It's a dead platform, and comet lake is simply better, not "hardly any better". 

Just because it's a few months old doesn't mean it's dead. And unless someone needs more than 6 threads/cores then the difference isn't much, especially after considering that it's significantly more expensive

[Haro]

1 hour ago, Jakub_NF said:

Just because it's a few months old doesn't mean it's dead.

That's not why it's dead, AM4 is a few years old and is not dead, it is dead because it wont get updated. 

1 hour ago, Jakub_NF said:

And unless someone needs more than 6 threads/cores then the difference isn't much

which... a lot of workloads can scale up to more than 6 threads.. 

 

1 hour ago, Jakub_NF said:

especially after considering that it's significantly more expensive

It's not significantly more expensive..? prices where you live are not the prices somewhere else.