how to EQ?

[spartaman64]

I have a dt990 250 ohm and a liquid spark amplifier and I want to try oratory1990's eq preset for the dt990. But I have no idea what to do. 

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ok i think i figured it out do i put it on auto or manual

am i doing this correctly

[spartaman64]

@rice guruhelp

should i do it in the txt file instead? is this right

[rice guru]

5 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

@rice guruhelp

should i do it in the txt file instead?

Honestly I dont EQ so I have no idea how auto eq works. what I found success in in the past was using peace GUI alongside qualizer APO and importing the preset. best thing to do is to follow the instructions here on how to do that https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq

[rice guru]

@spartaman64 also how are you liking the 990 and LS by themselves I really like to hear impressions and see if anything can be adjusted or swapped out just in case  the user doesn't like my suggestions.

[spartaman64]

4 minutes ago, rice guru said:

@spartaman64 also how are you liking the 990 and LS by themselves I really like to hear impressions and see if anything can be adjusted or swapped out just in case  the user doesn't like my suggestions.

its noticeably clearer than with my lg v20. and i feel like theres better separation. i did have a little monkaS moment when i plugged the liquid spark into the wrong port on my motherboard and when i turned it on it restarted my computer LUL. 

[rice guru]

2 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

its noticeably clearer than with my lg v20. and i feel like theres better separation. i did have a little monkaS moment when i plugged the liquid spark into the wrong port on my motherboard and when i turned it on it restarted my computer LUL. 

that's great! the 250 and 600  ohm beyers definitely appreciate with more power as it allows for more control. yikes did you plug it into the mic port and feed the mic in too much power?

[spartaman64]

1 minute ago, rice guru said:

yikes did you plug it into the mic port and feed the mic in too much power?

might have. i thought i remembered the headphone port is the one furthest left but i was wrong. good thing i just use my webcam mic

[rice guru]

Just now, spartaman64 said:

might have. i thought i remembered the headphone port is the one furthest left but i was wrong

glad ot know it works also monoprice customer service and RMA process is pretty great. so if you ever have any problems you should have a pretty ok time

 

[spartaman64]

4 minutes ago, rice guru said:

glad ot know it works also monoprice customer service and RMA process is pretty great. so if you ever have any problems you should have a pretty ok time

 

i didnt know an amp can improve separation. theres the expected stuff the sound is clearer and the bass hits harder but what really hit me is the sound coming from further away

[rice guru]

Just now, spartaman64 said:

i didnt know an amp can improve separation. theres the expected stuff the sound is clearer and the bass hits harder but what really hit me is the sound coming from further away

amps especially tube amps are known to improve soundstage thus also affecting separation and imaging as well. the liquid spark is well known to make headphones sound a little warmer so your bass hits harder and you get a  bit more mids, the bass improvements is also the more steady and reliable power coming from an amp. the improved soundstage I attribute the alex cavelli's design as well as just improved power allowing for more control thus allowing more detail to come in. the reason I pick this amp for beyers instead of other amps is the treble roll off helping wiht the sharp treble spikes of the 990 that can get bothersome to most. 

[Ahoy Hoy]

Dont bother EQing it messes up the phase of the audio and too much can make something sound terrible.
And that EQ is a lot of EQ so it will mess the phase up to some stage.

EQ should really only be used in small amounts to either improve or remove a sound. The DT990s are perfectly fine headphones and dont have anything majorly wrong with the sound that you will need to reach out for a EQ to fix it.


If you took a hearing test you would realise that your hearing isnt a flat line and you have flaws in what you hear and trying to make something have that perfect flat response is stupid because you are not a robot you dont have a perfect hearing system which gives you perfect flat response.


If you still want to EQ put your favourite song on and think would this be better with less bass more high and do a slight tweak till your happy

[The Flying Sloth]

That previous reply is extremely wrong.

 

Having things in phase is a massive concern for multitrack studio recording, if we were messing with the phase by using EQ nobody would do it, yet every producer/engineer I've ever spoken with uses EQ on almost every track. In fact, the phase argument really doesn't hold water since you're modifying both channels by the same amount and any half-competent engineer makes sure the left and right channels are in-phase with one another.

 

While I agree that less EQ is better and no EQ is best it has nothing to do with phase, at all.

[CTR640]

I only use EQ to tame the painfull "S" sibilance and so far it's working good.

[Ahoy Hoy]

On 9/17/2020 at 9:04 PM, The Flying Sloth said:

That previous reply is extremely wrong.

 

Having things in phase is a massive concern for multitrack studio recording, if we were messing with the phase by using EQ nobody would do it, yet every producer/engineer I've ever spoken with uses EQ on almost every track. In fact, the phase argument really doesn't hold water since you're modifying both channels by the same amount and any half-competent engineer makes sure the left and right channels are in-phase with one another.

 

While I agree that less EQ is better and no EQ is best it has nothing to do with phase, at all.

Are you joking right now?
Wow Im in shock that you dont know EQ affects phase. I have lost all respect for your advice on this forum you have no idea what you are talking about and your only point you make is people you know who have probably a education on the subject and experience do it.

Im amazed you dont even know what im talking about when I say phase. EQs affect frequncy not left and right signals. When I say phase Im referring to phase over the frequncy bandwidth not left right phase or speaker phase.

Watch this video he explains it very simply that most people with basic audio knowledge will understand.

My quick and basic take on this is. A EQ works using capacitors and inductors. When you put a sound through it the signal takes longer to reach the end because of the extra components the signal goes through. When you put a single frequency through a capacitor to change its sound that frequency's is delayed causing a phase problem because that frequncy is slightly out of phase with others.

Also next time your going to say I'm wrong when I'm not quote me so Im aware and your lack of education on the subject doesnt give others bad ideas on physics.

[The Flying Sloth]

Apologies, when we talk about phase here it's almost always to speak about speaker location, phase cancellation or funky phase issues between channels when recording.
I'll readily admit that I didn't know all the effects of EQ on phase because I'm always happy to learn (unlike some people on prettymuch every other subject) but in my defense if the gear slutz over on a different forum (you know the one) couldn't agree on the effects in four pages of discussion I don't feel too bad about it.

Good to see some love for Wytse here though, he's into a little more snake oil than I usually would support but he knows his stuff. He's actually the reason I have some of my favourite plugins like the Izotope suite.