Should I buy this RTX 2080TI Founders Edition for 500$

[IAMABOSS]

Hello Everyone, I just want some external opinions on how much you would spend on a 2080ti. I have worked out a deal with someone local to me to buy a RTX 2080ti for 500$ + an old 1050ti 4GB, its a founders edition card. So with the 3070 supposedly being equal to a 2080ti and at 499$, would you pay 575$ for a 2080ti right now? I would be upgrading from a RX 5700XT, and I want to game at 3440x1440 100Hz. Honestly have no interest in RTX, and I know the risk with last gen Nvidia cards being slowed down with driver updates. 2080ti founders are going anywhere from 700-800$ on ebay sold listings right now, so I could just buy and flip it. I am very skeptical of Nvidias claims about the performance of the 3070, and how many will be available, making the launch basically a paper launch (see ryzen 3300x). The 2080ti still has the 11gb frame buffer, and I think that will help keep prices of it high. So with all that considered, what would you do? I have a ryzen 3700x based system, so I am only GPU limited at this time. 

[LeeCope3]

No, just wait and buy a new card with full warranty, the 5700XT will be fine til then

[bmx6454]

2 minutes ago, IAMABOSS said:

So with the 3070 supposedly being equal to a 2080ti and at 499$, would you pay 575$ for a 2080ti right now?

no, especially because they are saying it is better, not equal. it's a very good price imo though.

[Ankerson]

4 minutes ago, IAMABOSS said:

and I know the risk with last gen Nvidia cards being slowed down with driver updates

 

 

That's BS....

 

My 1080Ti that I still have performs the same as it did when I 1st got it. 

 

I would wait for the reviews to come out before jumping on it just to make sure...

 

But it will be awhile before the new cards are really out so...

[BobVonBob]

Nvidia cards aren't slowed down by driver updates, there's a whole LTT video about driver versions vs performance. Nada.

 

 

[ItzUknown]

3 minutes ago, IAMABOSS said:

Hello Everyone, I just want some external opinions on how much you would spend on a 2080ti. I have worked out a deal with someone local to me to buy a RTX 2080ti for 500$ + an old 1050ti 4GB, its a founders edition card. So with the 3070 supposedly being equal to a 2080ti and at 499$, would you pay 575$ for a 2080ti right now? I would be upgrading from a RX 5700XT, and I want to game at 3440x1440 100Hz. Honestly have no interest in RTX, and I know the risk with last gen Nvidia cards being slowed down with driver updates. 2080ti founders are going anywhere from 700-800$ on ebay sold listings right now, so I could just buy and flip it. I am very skeptical of Nvidias claims about the performance of the 3070, and how many will be available, making the launch basically a paper launch (see ryzen 3300x). The 2080ti still has the 11gb frame buffer, and I think that will help keep prices of it high. So with all that considered, what would you do? I have a ryzen 3700x based system, so I am only GPU limited at this time. 

To be perfectly honest I would try to wait until the launch and see what's up with the card but if the price is right (which to me it is) and if you need the 11GB of GDDR6X if I'm not mistaken then i would for it, plus as you said they still go on ebay for more so its an easy flip if you have to sell it. I would buy it, especially because as you said you dont care about rtx and only about the performance!!

[Chris Pratt]

7 minutes ago, IAMABOSS said:

 I am very skeptical of Nvidias claims about the performance of the 3070, and how many will be available

The claims are real. DF got a 3080 and ran it against a 2080. Averaged around 80% better performance. That's significant. Even its worst performance was merely 60% better.

 

Now whether you can get your hands on one is a different story. I think they won't be widely available until the aftermarket cards hit.

[IAMABOSS]

4 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Now whether you can get your hands on one is a different story. I think they won't be widely available until the aftermarket cards hit

This is why I think that a 2080ti may be the way to go, but I am weighing the pros and cons of a 3070

[LeeCope3]

Just now, IAMABOSS said:

This is why I think that a 2080ti may be the way to go, but I am weighing the pros and cons of a 3070

there are no cons, just be patient

[Ankerson]

Just now, IAMABOSS said:

This is why I think that a 2080ti may be the way to go, but I am weighing the pros and cons of a 3070

 

 

I am waiting to see what the 3080Ti does.....

 

By the time that comes out I will be pushing around 2 1/2 years or so on my 2080Ti so maybe...

[IAMABOSS]

8 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

Nvidia cards aren't slowed down by driver updates, there's a whole LTT video about driver versions vs performance. Nada.

Maybe I am just skewed by AMD card getting faster with time, a 7970 has aged much better than a gtx 680. But you are right, that does not mean much for todays cards, and therefore, is not relevant 

[IAMABOSS]

3 minutes ago, LeeCope3 said:

there are no cons, just be patient

Well if I wait to long and the 3060 is announced, then the value of my 5700xt goes way down. Even farther than it has right now. 

[IAMABOSS]

15 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

no, especially because they are saying it is better, not equal. it's a very good price imo though

Would you buy it to flip it tho, easy 200$ considering I already have 0$ invested in the 1050ti from flipping the system it came in. And I could use it for a month, October is still a ways away. 

[LeeCope3]

6 minutes ago, IAMABOSS said:

Well if I wait to long and the 3060 is announced, then the value of my 5700xt goes way down. Even farther than it has right now. 

you never asked about your RX5700XT, its probably already worthless anyway

[bmx6454]

2 minutes ago, IAMABOSS said:

Would you buy it to flip it tho, easy 200$ considering I already have 0$ invested in the 1050ti from flipping the system it came in. And I could use it for a month, October is still a ways away. 

i wouldn't personally, only because I'm not big on risk, and counting on the price to not tank any more by october is definitely a risk. if you were going to try and flip it immediately, i would probably say yes.

[IAMABOSS]

1 minute ago, LeeCope3 said:

you never asked about your RX5700XT, its probably already worthless anyway

Nah, its a Sapphire Nitro+, one of the top cards, it will sill be worth more than a 2060 super, where ever those prices end up 

[i_build_nanosuits]

30 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

 

That's BS....

 

My 1080Ti that I still have performs the same as it did when I 1st got it. 

 

It does not believe me, i game on a 1080ti and it performs BETTER than the 1st day i got it...100%

[Ankerson]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

It does not believe me, i game on a 1080ti and it performs BETTER than the 1st day i got it...100%

 

There is that, with the driver improvements..

 

I was just making a point....

 

I still run mine in another machine.

[IAMABOSS]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

It does not believe me, i game on a 1080ti and it performs BETTER than the 1st day i got it...100%

Ok, this tells me to move forward with the 2080ti if they get faster over time. What would you do?

[IAMABOSS]

Ok, I think I am going to try to negotiate the guy down some more then. I know the benefit of buying a XX70 series card on day one, my brother bought a 1070 on release day, and was able to stay at the top of the charts in performance for years, even paying the premium FE tax from Nvidia, that card owed him nothing with as much gaming as he did on it, and was still able to sell it for 230 a few months ago. One thing scares me, the availability of the 3070, I just do not think they will have enough to satisfy demand it they first of next year, which is when Chinese new year hits, and factories shut down, further reducing availability. I think that AIB partner cards will be MUCH higher price than the founder edition, just based on demand. 

So: Cost benefit analysis   

3070 pros, faster than 2080ti, at 499, better RT performance?, lower power consumption, WARRANTY.

Cons, Getting one. Unknown performance outside of Nvidia's word, sales tax

2080ti pros, Good deal right now, potential to flip it for money, 11GB vram, Know performance and reliability, no sales tax.

Cons: no warranty, high risk, potential to loose significant money long term.

Overall, I have no idea what to do now, lol, buy and flip, buy and use, or don't buy. 

[IAMABOSS]

1 hour ago, ItzUknown said:

price is right (which to me it is)

I just got it for 450$ + 1050ti, killer deal imo

[ItzUknown]

5 hours ago, IAMABOSS said:

I just got it for 450$ + 1050ti, killer deal imo

At that price I don't think that anyone would miss it. The rtx 2080 ti alone is 600+ until the 3070 comes out and the 1050 ti easy 90$ or if you want to sell it quickly you 75$. The 1050 ti can be used for an HTPC and lite gaming