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@LinusTech and crew...  First, I wanted to say that I am impressed with the quality of the videos that LTT puts out.  I find them entertaining and informative for a short clip format.

 

Now on to my question for you guys.  I know that most of you seem to be all about AMD these days.  I am still an Intel / NVIDIA guy.  So, I was wondering what a monster build for an Intel based machine would look like.

 

Specifically, I would like to build a PC that does three things.  One, play any current and new game on the market and do it with ease.  Two, drive the heaviest of app like the apps in the Adobe CC suite and do so with speed and stability.  Three, look good enough that I would be proud to display it for all to see.

 

So, is this possible?  Is there a monitor out there that can be both color accurate for photo editing, but also have the features and speed that are needed for high end gaming?

 

Can you build a system that can do both gaming and high end stable workstation work?

 

The last time I built a machine, I used an extreme edition Intel processor and paired it with an ASUS WS-Professional main board.  This was pre UEFI if that tells you anything.

 

So help for this dinosaur would be most appreciated.

 

Many thanks in advance.

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3 minutes ago, RORWessels said:

Can you build a system that can do both gaming and high end stable workstation work?

Intel still has baller rigs, I mean there is very few things a i9 10900k with dual 2080ti or RTX Titans with 256gb of RAM cannot do. Just that AMD has alot more bang for the buck.

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Pretty much any high-end gaming rig is a good workstation aswell. A 10900K with a 2080Ti (or the upcoming 3090) will do just fine in work tasks and will be the best in terms of gaming.

 

The monitors you're looking are the LG 27GL850, 27GN850 or the 27GN950. Excellent gaming monitors, that are also great for creator work. Especially the 27GN950 because of the 4K screen real estate.

 

That being said, AMD CPUs not only hold higher value, they also have straight up better performance for each price point when it comes to most workloads. With this in mind it's hard to justify going for Intel these days. Because when it comes to getting work done AMD is the objectively better choice atm. The R9 3900X and everything above will noticeably outperform any Intel mainstream processor and still most of the extreme edition CPUs. Gaming performance is only a little worse on AMD, but not noticeably in most cases. Like i said, it's getting harder and harder to justify an Intel rig imo.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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I would wait for RTX 3000 and AMD 4000 to drop, even if your not interested in AMD, intel may need to lower pricing to stay competitive. That being said, while a top of the line intel rig will have no issue completing your tasks and I myself rock an intel rig, AMD will compleate your adobe renders faster.

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9 minutes ago, RORWessels said:

I am still an Intel / NVIDIA guy. 

Being a fan of specific companies for no reason is a bad idea. 

 

Nothing wrong with Intel, but if an AMD CPU happens to be a better tool for the job for a better price, that's the one to get. There's no reason to get an Intel CPU just for the sake of it being made by Intel (that is equally true for AMD).

 

I've had painfully long discussions with folks who "just felt more comfortable with an Intel CPU" and it just doesn't make sense. There's nothing special about an Intel CPU, and the same goes for AMD, they're both CPUs, they both work just fine and your purchase decision should only be based on the specs of an individual model, not on the brand.

 

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25 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

Being a fan of specific companies for no reason is a bad idea. 

 

Nothing wrong with Intel, but if an AMD CPU happens to be a better tool for the job for a better price, that's the one to get. There's no reason to get an Intel CPU just for the sake of it being made by Intel (that is equally true for AMD).

 

I've had painfully long discussions with folks who "just felt more comfortable with an Intel CPU" and it just doesn't make sense. There's nothing special about an Intel CPU, and the same goes for AMD, they're both CPUs, they both work just fine and your purchase decision should only be based on the specs of an individual model, not on the brand.

 

I would like to think that I am not a fan of a brand for no reason.  I still believe that Intel processors are more stable then AMD and have better thermal protection then AMD.  Also, as far as I know, Intel still has better single core performance then AMD does.

 

As for NVIDIA vs Radeon, it does come down to past experience.  I have always found NVIDIA to be more stable as well as having better drivers.

 

While price is an important consideration, it is not the end all consideration.

 

Still, my question was about building a new Intel based workstation that can be both a monster gaming rig and a really stable higher end workstation class machine.

 

Many thanks for the feedback.

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For gaming and Adobe? Sure, a 10900K is about as good as it gets right now if we're talking about the non-HEDT market.

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1 hour ago, RORWessels said:

I would like to think that I am not a fan of a brand for no reason.  I still believe that Intel processors are more stable then AMD and have better thermal protection then AMD.

What is this based on? "more stable"? in what way? No one these days, not Intel, not AMD, not even VIA (if it still exists) ships an unstable CPU.

 

Better thermal protection? Both Intel and AMD cpus shut down when they reach a certain temperature, a feature that's been around for a while now. it's not like any CPU these days actually cooks itself like they used to in the old days. Also, you shouldn't have to worry about that anyway if you're using a proper heatsink.

 

1 hour ago, RORWessels said:

Also, as far as I know, Intel still has better single core performance then AMD does.

Well perhaps that's the case. (let's assume it is) The problem is, it's still pointless to compare brands, you need to compare models. 

 

If you want the absolute best single core performance, and it turns out that the CPU with the best single core performance is made by Intel, great! Get one! Again, I've got nothing against Intel. The thing is though, you need to pick that chip based on your demands and the specifications of the CPU. The fact that it's made by Intel is of secondary importance.

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