If not using PCIe 4.0, can you turn off the x570 chipset fan?

[Sin Stalker]

I am curious. I am still on the hunt for a motherboard and I had been avoiding x570 due to the fan. However I realize it's probably the best choice, seeing as I already have a 2700x and want to upgrade to 4th gen ryzen when it comes out. The alternative would be going b550, grabbing a 3600 and flipping my 2700x. However that's more hassle and will probably make the performance gain of a 4600 less appealing going from a 3600 to 4600 instead of a 2700x to 4600. 

 

I just really dislike having a small fan in my system. Hoping it can be turned off or curve changed to such a degree that it'll be off all the time except if I use a pcie 4.0 device (which I won't be). 

[xg32]

1 minute ago, Sin Stalker said:

I am curious. I am still on the hunt for a motherboard and I had been avoiding x570 due to the fan. However I realize it's probably the best choice, seeing as I already have a 2700x and want to upgrade to 4th gen ryzen when it comes out. The alternative would be going b550, grabbing a 3600 and flipping my 2700x. However that's more hassle and will probably make the performance gain of a 4600 less appealing going from a 3600 to 4600 instead of a 2700x to 4600. 

 

I just really dislike having a small fan in my system. Hoping it can be turned off or curve changed to such a degree that it'll be off all the time except if I use a pcie 4.0 device (which I won't be). 

there's a new chipset coming out with zen 3.

[Guest]

You can physically disconnect the fan, and some people have found their system works fine. But it can affect the long term health of the chipset.

[Sin Stalker]

4 minutes ago, xg32 said:

there's a new chipset coming out with zen 3.

When does it come out and will my 2700x work in it? 

 

 

[Sin Stalker]

1 minute ago, Darpyface said:

You can physically disconnect the fan, and some people have found their system works fine. But it can affect the long term health of the chipset.

I wouldn't want to go that far. Just software so it'll turn on when it gets way too hot, should it 

[Jumballi]

Most x570 with a fan don't even turn on during normal use. Rather if it turns on, there's a problem with your overall airflow in the system.

[Chris Pratt]

The chipset fan can be controlled with a fan curve, and is almost always set to a "Silent" profile out of the box, i.e. it won't turn on unless your board is melting.

 

The ire against the chipset fan on X570 boards is completely overblown. It never really runs anyways. It's purely a safety measure, as these boards can technically draw enough power that thermals could be an issue, but in practice that doesn't actually happen.

 

[Sin Stalker]

1 minute ago, Caroline said:

why is the fan a problem?

 

it's a design flaw imo, on old mobos manufacturers could fit much larger heatsinks because the northbridge was right over the expansion slots, and you could even replace them with custom models, I have one that's all copper with a tiny fan on the inside, like a mini CPU cooler, found it on an old 775 mobo.

Worried about noise and having an additional point of failure.

[Sin Stalker]

1 minute ago, Chris Pratt said:

The chipset fan can be controlled with a fan curve, and is almost always set to a "Silent" profile out of the box, i.e. it won't turn on unless your board is melting.

 

The ire against the chipset fan on X570 boards is completely. It never really runs anyways. It's purely a safety measure, as these boards can technically draw enough power that thermals could be an issue, but in practice that doesn't actually happen.

 

So if I don't have a pcie gen 4 device in use, it probably won't turn on?

[Chris Pratt]

Just now, Sin Stalker said:

So if I don't have a pcie gen 4 device in use, it probably won't turn on?

It probably won't turn on even then. It's there because it's required by spec, but it's an anomaly that the chipset would ever get hot enough to actually need it.

[xg32]

18 minutes ago, Sin Stalker said:

When does it come out and will my 2700x work in it? 

 

 

it'll come out along with zen 3, i don't think it's compatible with the 2700x

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

It probably won't turn on even then. It's there because it's required by spec, but it's an anomaly that the chipset would ever get hot enough to actually need it.

It's a 15w chipset.

It's either a big heatsink or a tiny fan. They went the cheap route with a fan.

 

I guess people dont like the old chipset vrm heat pipe days with 40 pound mainboards

[Sin Stalker]

35 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it'll come out along with zen 3, i don't think it's compatible with the 2700x

If there isn't a date and it's not compatible, I don't think it's an options for something to use nowish.

[Sin Stalker]

37 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

It's a 15w chipset.

It's either a big heatsink or a tiny fan. They went the cheap route with a fan.

 

I guess people dont like the old chipset vrm heat pipe days with 40 pound mainboards

I'd much rather prefer a large heatpipe. I'd understand if that was the case for the higher end boards. But from low to high, they almost all use shitty fans. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Sin Stalker said:

I'd much rather prefer a large heatpipe. I'd understand if that was the case for the higher end boards. But from low to high, they almost all use shitty fans. 

I agree actually. Even though I'm accustomed to chipset fans because that's the way they where before the big heat pipes. That and location PCB design forces the use of fans also.

 

Back in the day, you could buy after market chipset heat sinks. I don't think that's the case anymore due to modder/enthusiast being such a niche market. Why design and build something that won't sell.