upgrade or wait? Should I get an i5-9600k or wait for i7-10700k?

[DonnyTM]

Hi guys

I'm new to this community and wanted to ask you guys if i should upgrade right now for an i5-9600k until winter to upgrade an i7-10700k or just wait for the i7?

 

Specs 

1. CPU - 2009 i7-950 3.05 MHz

2. GPU - (2 or SLI) EVGA GTX 1070 Black Edition OC

3. Power supply - 550Watts corsair

4. CPU cooler - Corsair h100 doing a push and pull 240mm x 2 top and bottom 

5. RAM - 24 DDR3-2000 MHz

 

I know its a really old System but I've been waiting for an upgrade for along time now because I've been doing a lot more heavy task work stations and I was really getting into flight simulators but will run 5-20 FPS in Very low setting in

X-plane 11.

If you have any Recommendation for me please comment to me and tell me which CPU to upgrade for me.

Thank you.

If i did some thing wrong plz tell me 

[Mateyyy]

I would wait until the Winter, if that's when you feel like you can do the proper upgrade. By that time, AMD's Zen 3 CPUs will also likely have been released, so you might have even more options to upgrade to.

[5x5]

Neither. Either wait for Zen 3 ina month or get a 3700X. Pretty much the same performance as a 10700K with half the heat/power draw and a much cheaper board and CPU combo.

[Tristerin]

Are flight sim games you play single threaded optimized?  If so I could understand wanting to stick with intel - but note that any CPU change to current generation will require a new motherboard and RAM at a minimum as well - the rest can transfer over.  If the games you play (and workstation tasks) benefit from core count...I highly suggest looking into AMD for bang for buck return on investment

[Perrytheplatypus43]

So i've been playing/flying with x plane for about 2/3 years now. And looking at your current specs if you get a good cpu you will be able to get a steady 35+ in climb/cruise the sim only really becomes gpu limited in taxi/approach i use a i7-9700k and it is perfect for the price. i would recommend you get the i7-9700k and you will be able to get 30+fps almost anywhere with almost max settings.

[DonnyTM]

So i have an issue 

My father Really hates AMD and hes been with Intel since 2004 and will never want to get an AMD for a primary computer

I tried to talk to him about AMD but he will always says no.

So just wait for i7-10700k?

[Perrytheplatypus43]

2 minutes ago, DonnyTM said:

So i have an issue 

My father Really hates AMD and hes been with Intel since 2004 and will never want to get an AMD for a primary computer

I tried to talk to him about AMD but he will always says no.

So just wait for i7-10700k?

you really wont need anything more powerful then the 10700k for x plane after you get that cpu you will become GPU limited. With a 10700k and a gtx1070 you will be able to run almost max setting with a steady 30+ fps almost anywhere,

[DonnyTM]

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

I would wait until the Winter, if that's when you feel like you can do the proper upgrade. By that time, AMD's Zen 3 CPUs will also likely have been released, so you might have even more options to upgrade to.

My father wont allow me to get the new AMD CPU for no apparent reason

He just says their Cheap and no good, even thought i showed him performance of AMD beating intel in some categories 

[Perrytheplatypus43]

@DonnyTM xplane was actually designed on intel so you will actually get better performance with intel if you are only looking to use your pc for xplane

[DonnyTM]

58 minutes ago, Perrytheplatypus43 said:

you really wont need anything more powerful then the 10700k for x plane after you get that cpu you will become GPU limited. With a 10700k and a gtx1070 you will be able to run almost max setting with a steady 30+ fps almost anywhere,

But can i still buy an i5-9600k 

because i've found a ASUS maximus X hero for $207 and was thinking to upgrade 

[SPARTAN VI]

I wouldn't go below 6c/12t, so 10th gen Core i5 (e.g. 10500,10600,10600K) if you must go Intel. 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, DonnyTM said:

Thank you.

i would say wait if possible, and check what zen 3 has to offer and how demanding the game is. 

but for the most part i would avoid coffee lake when switching to a new platform. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[Perrytheplatypus43]

Just now, DonnyTM said:

But can i still buy an i5-9600k 

because i've found a ASUS maximus X hero for $207 and was thinking to upgrade 

no i would really go with the 10700k with you want 30+ almost everywhere at almost max settings

[5x5]

10 minutes ago, DonnyTM said:

So i have an issue 

My father Really hates AMD and hes been with Intel since 2004 and will never want to get an AMD for a primary computer

I tried to talk to him about AMD but he will always says no.

So just wait for i7-10700k?

I mean, try to tell him that brand bias is a poor mentality and that judging current products by something he heard 20 years ago is foolish at best.

 

But I'd you're stuck on intel, get a 10600K and beefy cooling.

[DonnyTM]

59 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

i would say wait if possible, and check what zen 3 has to offer and how demanding the game is. 

but for the most part i would avoid coffee lake when switching to a new platform. 

 

59 minutes ago, SPARTAN VI said:

I wouldn't go below 6c/12t, so 10th gen Core i5 (e.g. 10500,10600,10600K) if you must go Intel. 

So now i know

I should just wait for the i7-10700k for Christmas then

Thank you every one for your opinions 

[Mateyyy]

8 minutes ago, DonnyTM said:

But can i still buy an i5-9600k 

because i've found a ASUS maximus X hero for $207 and was thinking to upgrade 

That's not even a good deal for a used Z370 Hero, and the 9600K is a really bad buy in this day and age.

 

If you want to go with Intel and you're just gaming, get a 10600K, an NH-U12S chromax.black or Dark Rock 4 to go along with it (since it doesn't include a stock cooler), 2x8GB memory kit (3200 CL14 would be really good, cheap 3600 CL16 would be good but 3200 CL16 is also alright) and a Z490 Gaming Edge WIFI or Z490 Vision G. This is ignoring AMD's upcoming Zen 3 and Intel's upcoming Rocket Lake-S.

[Perrytheplatypus43]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I mean, try to tell him that brand bias is a poor mentality and that judging current products by something he heard 20 years ago is foolish at best.

 

But I'd you're stuck on intel, get a 10600K and beefy cooling.

i agree but in the case of xplane: xplane was designed on intel so intel is actually the better choice if you are only going to use it on xplane

[Haro]

10 hours ago, DonnyTM said:

for Christmas then

by that time  zen 3 would probably be out, so check that. 

[DonnyTM]

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

That's not even a good deal for a used Z370 Hero, and the 9600K is a really bad buy in this day and age.

 

If you want to go with Intel and you're just gaming, get a 10600K, an NH-U12S chromax.black or Dark Rock 4 to go along with it (since it doesn't include a stock cooler), 16GB of memory (3200 CL14 would be really good, 3600 CL16 would be good but 3200 CL16 is also alright) and a Z490 Gaming Edge WIFI or Z490 Vision G.

 

1 hour ago, Perrytheplatypus43 said:

i agree but in the case of xplane: xplane was designed on intel so intel is actually the better choice if you are only going to use it on xplane

So you think its better to buy a i5-10600k with a z490 motherboard and 3200 Mhz of ram when its christmas i can Just get the i7-10700k

and i can give my father the i5-10600k for a future build

 

Also i wanted to get all my parts to my local Micro Center because their processors, motherboard, and Ram are alot cheaper than Amazon and Newegg combined.

 

 

[Mateyyy]

Just now, DonnyTM said:

So you think its better to buy a i5-10600k with a z490 motherboard and 3200 Mhz of ram when its christmas i can Just get the i7-10700k

and i can give my father the i5-10600k for a future build

The 10600K is just as good for gaming, and I don't see even AAA games needing more than 12 threads to run optimally for quite a while.

[5x5]

4 minutes ago, Perrytheplatypus43 said:

i agree but in the case of xplane: xplane was designed on intel so intel is actually the better choice if you are only going to use it on xplane

Not really. Only I'd you're using a 2080 To at 1080p. In all other cases, the CPU vendor is irrelevant

[SFFDesigns]

I wouldn't worry about X-Plane 11 anymore. MSFS is just around the corner and is optimized for more than 4 cores.

 

Even if you don't like AMD, the price to perf is just too good. 

 

27 minutes ago, DonnyTM said:

but will run 5-20 FPS in Very low setting in

X-plane 11.

that is partially x-plane's poor optimization. Is that an 11.50 or 11.41?

 

 

I know you don't like AMD, but get a 3700X, you won't regret it.

 

MSFS will take advantage of all the cores.

[DonnyTM]

1 hour ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

I wouldn't worry about X-Plane 11 anymore. MSFS is just around the corner and is optimized for more than 4 cores.

 

Even if you don't like AMD, the price to perf is just too good. 

 

that is partially x-plane's poor optimization. Is that an 11.50 or 11.41?

 

 

I know you don't like AMD, but get a 3700X, you won't regret it.

 

MSFS will take advantage of all the cores.

I'll just wait for the i7-10700k for Christmas then  

 

[SFFDesigns]

2 minutes ago, DonnyTM said:

I'll just wait for the i7-10700k for Christmas then  

 

that'll work too! The two are equivalent roughly for multithreaded so the 10700K will do just as well in MSFS most likely, just at higher temps and power consumption.

 

Just curious though, what XP11 version are you on? In the interim, I'd try Vulkan if you aren't using it already

[DonnyTM]

1 hour ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

that'll work too! The two are equivalent roughly for multithreaded so the 10700K will do just as well in MSFS most likely, just at higher temps and power consumption.

 

Just curious though, what XP11 version are you on? In the interim, I'd try Vulcan if you aren't using it already

Where do i check which version your in Xplane 11