HXi vs. ROG Thor

[CypherCL]

Eyo!
Alright, so I - at first - didn't want to make a thread about this and see if I could get the answer for myself without any help.
After searching a lot around, browsing in this forum about it as well and not really being able to come to a "good" conclusion that I stand 100% behind, I'll go ahead and do my first post over here.

What's the question:
Is the "Asus ROG Thor" PSU a worthy opponent for the "HX850i" (Now, please behold of posting "money-wise it isn't, it's massively overpriced" - I know that. Money is not really the problem).

Details:
To begin with, I plan a build with a lot of bling bling & wow-effects.
In terms of PSU, I heard only positive things about Corsair's PSU - like ever.
About ROG, well, they sometimes don't get away as good as Corsair. I'm a little biased on basically a lot of bad reviews about their AIO-Coolers, for example.
After browsing quite a bit (Although, please forgive that I'm not thaaaat into the whole topic when it comes to PSUs), I found out that the Thor is basically a - by ROG customized - Seasonic PSU (Sorry if that's wrong, my intention is not to spread wrong information, just to learn). Seasonic have quite a good reputation in terms of PSUs - as well as the Corsair.
Now, for the Build I don't really care about paying 50€ more for a gimmick that shows me the current power-draw of the whole monster machine. And that's the thing - the OLED-Display of the Thor is basically the major-reason why I'm considering it. An up-faced fan shouldn't be a problem in an open-air case with 10 fans, so that's not a problem either.
There isn't any mentionable alternative in terms of having a customizable Display on a PSU - sadly.... (Although I really hope Corsair will get into this "show-power-draw"-thing at some point as well, hardware-wise).

The real thing that worries me is if the Thor can quality-wise compete with the Corsair HX850i & if I don't sacrifice quality if I actually end up going with the Thor instead of Corsair's.
They're both marked as "Gold"-Tier in the Tier-List, one is single-rail, the other is multi-rail. And the HXi offers a bit more of ports (Again, sorry if that's wrong). But about internal quality - that's the stuff where I'm just unsure.

Thanks for reading, I'll provide two links for each PSU if anyone here isn't familiar with those 2 specific models.
Appreciate any help I can get, cheers.

Corsair's HX850i: https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-config/p/CP-9020073-UK
Asus' ROG Thor: https://www.asus.com/uk/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-THOR-850P/

[Senzelian]

Seems rock solid. I'd buy it if I had too much money laying around.

 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/asus-rog-thor-850w-platinum-power-supply-review/6/

[Mateyyy]

The ROG Thor is pretty much a Seasonic Prime Ultra under the hood iirc? Though it also has a better fan on it, which is a big plus.

Personally, I'd get the HXi and just monitor power usage through Corsair Link and save the extra cash, but I mean if you've got the money for the Thor then it's up to you - regardless of the price, it's still a very high-end unit, pretty much on par with the HXi.

 

What components are you powering, on another note? 850W sounds quite high for most modern mainstream systems.

[CypherCL]

16 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

What components are you powering, on another note? 850W sounds quite high for most modern mainstream systems.

That's why I didn't want to bother anyone with it in the first place - because the whole build is still a "plan for a future build" thing.
Basically, I went ahead and made a list of a bunch of components, browsing a lot around & improving/finding the best possible components with no matter of price (Except completely unreasonable price like 2080Ti for example - but that's ofc. Subjective).

I'm relatively new to this, so I don't really know how to "insert" a PCPP-List, that's why I'll simply list the main components - if that still helps you.
CPU = Ryzen 3900X (Will be upgraded with 4000 Series, or with later 5000 Series - whether they actually drop something "new" on the 4000 or just APUs)
GPU = RTX 2080 Super MSI Gaming Trio (Will be updated with 3000 Cards once it's released)
MOBO = <Insert possible AM5 Socket MOBO>
RAM = Corsair's RGB Pro Sticks with 2x16GB Modules (Instead of 4 to boost performance a bit) and sadly no B-Die. Although I don't know how things will look with the DDR5 release.

Forgive if I miss any components that'd make the whole thing a bit clearer and easier to understand, I'd love to make a more detailed list later on when there's more to be listed than "temporary components".
The estimated-wattage lays at around ~600W (depending on how that will increase with future products after release, that's why it's so theoretical).
People usually recommend to directly go to a 750W PSU. And since price doesn't matter *too* much and PSUs tend to have a "somewhat better" efficiency under "lower load", I went with a 850W Unit instead. (Whether it's really noticeable or not in terms of efficiency, I liked the thought)...
(I'm a bit biased on this one as jayztwocents -sub )
Let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks a lot for the answers regarding the PSU, really made me more confident about it. Would still appreciate further input and opinions on the PSU, ofc. - if there are any.
Cheers!

[Guest]

Given the Asus has a Futaba OLED that only has a life of three years, and doesn't have the monitoring capability of the HXi (you're going to be running iCUE any way in order to control the RGB memory), I'd pick the HXi.

 

[Mateyyy]

29 minutes ago, CypherCL said:

I'm relatively new to this, so I don't really know how to "insert" a PCPP-List, that's why I'll simply list the main components - if that still helps you.
CPU = Ryzen 3900X (Will be upgraded with 4000 Series, or with later 5000 Series - whether they actually drop something "new" on the 4000 or just APUs)
GPU = RTX 2080 Super MSI Gaming Trio (Will be updated with 3000 Cards once it's released)
MOBO = <Insert possible AM5 Socket MOBO>
RAM = Corsair's RGB Pro Sticks with 2x16GB Modules (Instead of 4 to boost performance a bit) and sadly no B-Die. Although I don't know how things will look with the DDR5 release.

 

Forgive if I miss any components that'd make the whole thing a bit clearer and easier to understand, I'd love to make a more detailed list later on when there's more to be listed than "temporary components".
The estimated-wattage lays at around ~600W (depending on how that will increase with future products after release, that's why it's so theoretical).

You can just make a parts list in PCPartPicker, copy the link of the list and paste it here.

 

850W is definitely very overkill for a 3900X and 2080 Super, since a system with those parts will pull say around 400W at worst, at 100% load on both the CPU and GPU.

Ryzen 4000 CPUs will be on the Zen 3 architecture, and should be coming in a few short months now.

Ryzen 5000 will be on the AM5 socket, as opposed to the current AM4, and will likely feature DDR5 support, but that's coming probably around late 2021, and realistically DDR5 isn't going to become mainstream until a bit later than that, most likely.

 

If you're set on RGB memory but you're also looking for the utmost performance, G.Skill has some Samsung B-die kits of Trident Z RGB/Neo (3200 CL14-14-14-34 and 3600 CL16-16-16-36 being the most notable for a Zen 2 build).

[CypherCL]

12 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

850W is definitely very overkill for a 3900X and 2080 Super, since a system with those parts will pull say around 400W at worst, at 100% load on both the CPU and GPU.

Mhm, I understand. Although I have to admit I'd really love such a Power-Draw monitor... Have to see what things will look like in the future or if it's just a temporary phase where I'm too hyped for that thing... But I get your point. 

 

12 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Ryzen 5000 will be on the AM5 socket, as opposed to the current AM4, and will likely feature DDR5 support, but that's coming probably around late 2021, and realistically DDR5 isn't going to become mainstream until a bit later than that, most likely.
 

If you're set on RGB memory but you're also looking for the utmost performance, G.Skill has some Samsung B-die kits of Trident Z RGB/Neo (3200 CL14-14-14-34 and 3600 CL16-16-16-36 being the most notable for a Zen 2 build).

Yep, I kind of planned to get the whole thing in somewhat ~1 year or something. So that's why I was like "Well, let's just wait a bit more until everything is released and proven to work relatively stable, and then continue the whole thing and get the new tech"...
I would have gone with the G-Skill one, although they'd only fill 2 RAM-Slots. And when you spend a noticeable amount of money on the bling-bling part as well, I wanted to be able to fill the 2 empty-remaining-slots with Dummy-Kits. Sadly, G-Skill doesn't offer any - but Corsair does. So that's kind of a thing where I'm still unsure, especially if I keep in mind the DDR5 Release - which I'm aiming for as well.

This whole thing was basically an "Ow, got a lot of free time during quarantine and holidays, so why not spend some time with dreaming of your next build".
The PSU, for example, was a thing I couldn't get any further by my own - so I need(ed) some input from others.
Really appreciate the feedback tho.
Forgive if I don't answer to every feedback to the Build/PSU, I like to lurk a lot rather to post too many answers and lose the main plot of the thread... 

[Spotty]

1 hour ago, CypherCL said:

And that's the thing - the OLED-Display of the Thor is basically the major-reason why I'm considering it. An up-faced fan shouldn't be a problem in an open-air case with 10 fans, so that's not a problem either.
There isn't any mentionable alternative in terms of having a customizable Display on a PSU - sadly.... (Although I really hope Corsair will get into this "show-power-draw"-thing at some point as well, hardware-wise).

One thing to keep in mind is that the screen for the ROG Thor is only on one side. So depending how you mount the PSU, the case you're using, the side panel, PSU shroud... You might not even be able to see it. That's a pretty big downside to the hardware option for displaying power. The OLED screen is also limited to only showing the total power output, while software options can provide much more information and control.

 

The software option for the HXi has its own issues though. Corsair iCue (the software to view and control the PSU) isn't officially supported on Linux last I checked. Plus you need to have software running, though as Jon pointed out it's the same software for corsair's other peripherals and hardware so if you're using other Corsair stuff (anything with RGB, keyboards, AIO, mice, headsets, etc)  you'll already be running it. It also occupies an internal USB header to report to the system, which might be a problem if your motherboard is low on USB 2.0 internal headers or you want to use them for something else.