Ethernet Cable Wiring Recommendations

[Daniel_1104]

Hi so i’m wiring my room with ethernet and I live in a semi detached house in the UK. The modem is downstairs on one corner and my room is on the opposite side of the house but upstairs. Being from the Uk all the walls are just solid brick and we don’t really have dry wall like in the USA. Well not my house anyway. So i’m planning on running the cable threw the house in the wall for the fiber cable and wrapping it around the whole house to reach my bedroom and drill threw the wall there.

 

Our internet is pretty solid at 500mbps, but I don’t want to get a cat 5e as this cable will be useless in a few years when we get faster internet as it comes out. So i’m thinking of using Cat 7 outdoor cable. Problem is I can’t really find any outdoor cables that aren’t orange, ideally want a black or what as it’s going outside the house. 

 

Also i’m not 100% Cat 7 is the correct cable, I some future proofing as our area will get 1gb internet soon. I also want to make sure the there isn’t there isn’t much data loss so I have the full internet speed and ping. The cable will need to go over 40m roughly.

 

So could you guys recommend a better route if you know one, the correct cat of cable I need and maybe link me one if possible?

 

Thanks in advance

[IntMD]

Are your floors solid concrete or anything like that, or are they wooden? If they're wooden you might just be able to lift the floor boards and run the cables through there and up under the stairs or something? Alternatively, you could just dig out a channel in the internal brick and then replaster over it, would probably bee a better solution than drilling holes through the external walls.

[Jae Tee]

Just go cat6. Future proofing never works, and in terms of actual copper cat5e will work just fine as well. 

[Velcade]

You can run CAT 6 and be fine.  Monoprice has good prices for good cable

[Boomwebsearch]

18 minutes ago, Daniel_1104 said:

Hi so i’m wiring my room with ethernet and I live in a semi detached house in the UK. The modem is downstairs on one corner and my room is on the opposite side of the house but upstairs. Being from the Uk all the walls are just solid brick and we don’t really have dry wall like in the USA. Well not my house anyway. So i’m planning on running the cable threw the house in the wall for the fiber cable and wrapping it around the whole house to reach my bedroom and drill threw the wall there.

 

Our internet is pretty solid at 500mbps, but I don’t want to get a cat 5e as this cable will be useless in a few years when we get faster internet as it comes out. So i’m thinking of using Cat 7 outdoor cable. Problem is I can’t really find any outdoor cables that aren’t orange, ideally want a black or what as it’s going outside the house. 

 

Also i’m not 100% Cat 7 is the correct cable, I some future proofing as our area will get 1gb internet soon. I also want to make sure the there isn’t there isn’t much data loss so I have the full internet speed and ping. The cable will need to go over 40m roughly.

 

So could you guys recommend a better route if you know one, the correct cat of cable I need and maybe link me one if possible?

 

Thanks in advance

 

I would recommend either Cat 5.e or Cat 6 cabling, Cat 6 and Cat 5.e can both handle gigabit speeds, only difference is that Cat 6 gives more bandwidth. Honestly, I would just use Cat5.e, you likely aren't going to be able to take advantage of any higher speeds than a gigabit on a home internet network for quite some time anyway.

 

 

 

[Biomecanoid]

All boils down to cost, if you can afford a 10gb cable and you have similarly specced computers that can use the bandwidth go for it 

[Daniel_1104]

37 minutes ago, IntMD said:

Are your floors solid concrete or anything like that, or are they wooden? If they're wooden you might just be able to lift the floor boards and run the cables through there and up under the stairs or something? Alternatively, you could just dig out a channel in the internal brick and then replaster over it, would probably bee a better solution than drilling holes through the external walls.

That was ideally what I wanted to do but my mum hates the cables being seen and wouldn’t let me cut into the wall to plaster over it later, thanks for the suggestion

[Daniel_1104]

27 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

I would recommend either Cat 5.e or Cat 6 cabling, Cat 6 and Cat 5.e can both handle gigabit speeds, only difference is that Cat 6 gives more bandwidth. Honestly, I would just use Cat5.e, you likely aren't going to be able to take advantage of any higher speeds than a gigabit on a home internet network for quite some time anyway.

 

 

 

My only slight issue with Cat5e is that my ISP are rolling out 1gb now, and our area generally gets it fairly quickly, so I don’t want to be at the limit of it already. But Cat 6 could be a good option, I thought it limited out at 1gb, but if it does 10gb that puts my mind at rest, plus it’s much easier to find that Cat7

[Boomwebsearch]

1 minute ago, Daniel_1104 said:

My only slight issue with Cat5e is that my ISP are rolling out 1gb now, and our area generally gets it fairly quickly, so I don’t want to be at the limit of it already. But Cat 6 could be a good option, I thought it limited out at 1gb, but if it does 10gb that puts my mind at rest, plus it’s much easier to find that Cat7

 

Cat 7 is only really meant to be used in data-center applications, way beyond overkill for a home network. I did some research and would recommend this cable from Monoprice which is 50 or 100 feet of Cat6A cable that's good-quality and reasonably-priced, should give you more consistently high speeds and excellent bandwidth than Cat6 or Cat6.e. Cat6A is truly designed to be able to work with 10GBPS connections, while it's more of a theoretical maximum supported by the standard on Cat 6 and Cat 6.e.

 

50 feet:  https://www.monoprice.uk/products/monoprice-cat6a-ethernet-patch-cable-15-meters-blue-snagless-rj45-stranded-550mhz-stp-pure-bare-copper-wire-10g-26awg?variant=31452367126615

 

100 feet:   https://www.monoprice.uk/products/monoprice-cat6a-ethernet-patch-cable-15-meters-blue-snagless-rj45-stranded-550mhz-stp-pure-bare-copper-wire-10g-26awg?variant=31452367159383

[Daniel_1104]

10 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

Cat 7 is only really meant to be used in data-center applications, way beyond overkill for a home network. I did some research and would recommend this cable from Monoprice which is 50 or 100 feet of Cat6A cable that's good-quality and reasonably-priced, should give you more consistently high speeds and excellent bandwidth than Cat6 or Cat6.e. Cat6A is truly designed to be able to work with 10GBPS connections, while it's more of a theoretical maximum supported by the standard on Cat 6 and Cat 6.e.

 

50 feet:  https://www.monoprice.uk/products/monoprice-cat6a-ethernet-patch-cable-15-meters-blue-snagless-rj45-stranded-550mhz-stp-pure-bare-copper-wire-10g-26awg?variant=31452367126615

 

100 feet:   https://www.monoprice.uk/products/monoprice-cat6a-ethernet-patch-cable-15-meters-blue-snagless-rj45-stranded-550mhz-stp-pure-bare-copper-wire-10g-26awg?variant=31452367159383

Hi I could have missed it but I couldn’t see if the cable with suitable for outdoors? It’s a super great price compared to the cables on amazon

[Alex Atkin UK]

2 hours ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

Cat 7 is only really meant to be used in data-center applications, way beyond overkill for a home network. I did some research and would recommend this cable from Monoprice which is 50 or 100 feet of Cat6A cable that's good-quality and reasonably-priced, should give you more consistently high speeds and excellent bandwidth than Cat6 or Cat6.e. Cat6A is truly designed to be able to work with 10GBPS connections, while it's more of a theoretical maximum supported by the standard on Cat 6 and Cat 6.e.

 

50 feet:  https://www.monoprice.uk/products/monoprice-cat6a-ethernet-patch-cable-15-meters-blue-snagless-rj45-stranded-550mhz-stp-pure-bare-copper-wire-10g-26awg?variant=31452367126615

 

100 feet:   https://www.monoprice.uk/products/monoprice-cat6a-ethernet-patch-cable-15-meters-blue-snagless-rj45-stranded-550mhz-stp-pure-bare-copper-wire-10g-26awg?variant=31452367159383

Sounds dubious they are calling it CAT6A but saying its 26AWG which according the tables above means its NOT CAT6A.

[Daniel_1104]

35 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Sounds dubious they are calling it CAT6A but saying its 26AWG which according the tables above means its NOT CAT6A.

Yeah I thought it was too good to be true, ethernet cables have some serious false advertising about them, im guessing they hope the consumer just won’t notice.

[Alex Atkin UK]

1 minute ago, Daniel_1104 said:

Yeah I thought it was too good to be true, ethernet cables have some serious false advertising about them, im guessing they hope the consumer just won’t notice.

Speaking of, I bought a CAT6A STP cable off Amazon and that too seems iffy as I can only get a link at 5Gbit not 10Gbit.  On the other hand a flat cable claiming to be CAT6 of the same length works fine.  It seems you just can't trust that any cable is what it says it is.

[Daniel_1104]

8 hours ago, Daniel_1104 said:

Hi so i’m wiring my room with ethernet and I live in a semi detached house in the UK. The modem is downstairs on one corner and my room is on the opposite side of the house but upstairs. Being from the Uk all the walls are just solid brick and we don’t really have dry wall like in the USA. Well not my house anyway. So i’m planning on running the cable threw the house in the wall for the fiber cable and wrapping it around the whole house to reach my bedroom and drill threw the wall there.

 

Our internet is pretty solid at 500mbps, but I don’t want to get a cat 5e as this cable will be useless in a few years when we get faster internet as it comes out. So i’m thinking of using Cat 7 outdoor cable. Problem is I can’t really find any outdoor cables that aren’t orange, ideally want a black or what as it’s going outside the house. 

 

Also i’m not 100% Cat 7 is the correct cable, I some future proofing as our area will get 1gb internet soon. I also want to make sure the there isn’t there isn’t much data loss so I have the full internet speed and ping. The cable will need to go over 40m roughly.

 

So could you guys recommend a better route if you know one, the correct cat of cable I need and maybe link me one if possible?

 

Thanks in advance

If someone could send me a link for some Cat6a or above cable, rated for outdoors at roughy 75m i’d be very thankful. 
 

Been looking for hours and I just can’t find a product that suits my needs. Only ones i’v found are 500m cables costing £600, which I don’t really want to get

[Blue4130]

5 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Speaking of, I bought a CAT6A STP cable off Amazon and that too seems iffy as I can only get a link at 5Gbit not 10Gbit.  On the other hand a flat cable claiming to be CAT6 of the same length works fine.  It seems you just can't trust that any cable is what it says it is.

The bad speeds are probably not related to the cable, but to the termination of the ends. Cat6a spec is pretty dependent on proper termination practices. 

[Blue4130]

2 hours ago, Daniel_1104 said:

If someone could send me a link for some Cat6a or above cable, rated for outdoors at roughy 75m i’d be very thankful. 
 

Been looking for hours and I just can’t find a product that suits my needs. Only ones i’v found are 500m cables costing £600, which I don’t really want to get

https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Waterproof-Ethernet-Direct-Shielded/dp/B0785N6KZ2/ref=mp_s_a_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=Cat6a%2Buv&qid=1595035292&sr=8-21&th=1&psc=1

[Daniel_1104]

Thanks guys, sorry for asking so many questions but do I need a certain type RJ45 for Cat6a or will any RJ45 or Keystone work fine?

[Blue4130]

29 minutes ago, Daniel_1104 said:

Thanks guys, sorry for asking so many questions but do I need a certain type RJ45 for Cat6a or will any RJ45 or Keystone work fine?

You need specific ones as the wire gauge is thicker. (and to meet spec, I believe they are grounded to the connectors) 

[Daniel_1104]

2 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

You need specific ones as the wire gauge is thicker. (and to meet spec, I believe they are grounded to the connectors) 

Do they have a specific name or just RJ45  cat6a connectors?

[kokosnh]

Just make sure it's pure copper, not CCA ( copper clad aluminium ). 

My colleagues once bought me 305 meters of CCA. I triedto do 2 time some 25 meters runs, and they both failed on the tester. Has to throw it to warehouse, and tell them to buy me pure copper ones.