New parts system won't post, nothing obvious wrong

[Blu3Jay]

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500w evga

Ryzen 5 3600

MSI gaming x amd 5600xt

8x4gb Corsair vengeance pro 3600

Asus b450f rog strix

 

I got the new gpu and ram just today, swapped the ram and gpu and then no post, LED light on motherboard starts yellow, then hard red then nothing. I've checked to make sure everything is seated correctly. 

[refinedskillz]

1 minute ago, Blu3Jay said:

See title

500w evga

Ryzen 5 3600

MSI gaming x amd 5600xt

8x4gb Corsair vengeance pro 3600

Asus b450f rog strix

 

I got the new gpu and ram just today, swapped the ram and gpu and then no post, LED light on motherboard starts yellow, then hard red then nothing. I've checked to make sure everything is seated correctly. 

Thats the motherboard "error LED". Its job is to tell the user that something is wrong, look in your motherboards manual and it'll tell you what the light sequence means.

[DailyProcrastinator]

Does the motherboard support 3rd gen Ryzen? You may need a Bios update?

[Blu3Jay]

1 minute ago, refinedskillz said:

Thats the motherboard "error LED". Its job is to tell the user that something is wrong, look in your motherboards manual and it'll tell you what the light sequence means.

The motherboard manual only hints as to what may be wrong, in this case red means cpu and yellow means dram. However I know for a fact my CPU is fine because I was just using it. 

[Blu3Jay]

2 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Does the motherboard support 3rd gen Ryzen? You may need a Bios update?

You can't update bios if it doesn't post? Am I wrong?

[refinedskillz]

1 minute ago, Blu3Jay said:

The motherboard manual only hints as to what may be wrong, in this case red means cpu and yellow means dram. However I know for a fact my CPU is fine because I was just using it. 

Try googling it then, also, if your board has a "bios update" button on the rear I/O, your able to do it with no CPU installed at all. Also try remove a stick of ram.

[Blu3Jay]

4 minutes ago, refinedskillz said:

Try googling it then, also, if your board has a "bios update" button on the rear I/O, your able to do it with no CPU installed at all. Also try remove a stick of ram.

I think a bios update is a good lead, but I don't have a way to put it on a USB. Plus I'm still trying to find that button 

[DailyProcrastinator]

2 minutes ago, Blu3Jay said:

You can't update bios if it doesn't post? Am I wrong?

Well you can't post without a compatible CPU, so verify if the board has been updated, it could say so right on the motherboard box, if not then it is likely it needs an update and I don't think that motherboard has USB flashback.

 

If this is the case then you have a few options.

- Find someone to lend you a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen CPU

- Get a local PC shop to update the bios for you

- Return the board and get a board the supports 3rd gen out of box (I recommend B550 at this point)

- Get a loaner CPU from AMD (this will take time to have a CPU sent to you, then you have to send it back). https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100#faq-Short-Term-Processor-Loan-Boot-Kit

 

[Blu3Jay]

1 minute ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Well you can't post without a compatible CPU, so verify if the board has been updated, it could say so right on the motherboard box, if not then it is likely it needs an update and I don't think that motherboard has USB flashback.

 

If this is the case then you have a few options.

- Find someone to lend you a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen CPU

- Get a local PC shop to update the bios for you

- Return the board and get a board the supports 3rd gen out of box (I recommend B550 at this point)

- Get a loaner CPU from AMD (this will take time to have a CPU sent to you, then you have to send it back). https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100#faq-Short-Term-Processor-Loan-Boot-Kit

 

I was just using my 3600 today..... It's not the CPU

 

[refinedskillz]

Just now, Blu3Jay said:

I was just using my 3600 today..... It's not the CPU

 

Try swap in the old ram , if it works, its the ram, if not, swap the gpu. Make sure you have 8/6 pin power plugged into the gpu, make sure it sits in the pcie slot properly, make sure your monitor is turned on, make sure the cable your using to connect it works, etc

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 minute ago, Blu3Jay said:

I was just using my 3600 today..... It's not the CPU

 

My bad assumed the whole system was new, just the GPU and RAM I see. Have you reset the CMOS?

 

 

[Blu3Jay]

1 minute ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

My bad assumed the whole system was new, just the GPU and RAM I see. Have you reset the CMOS?

 

 

I have not, I'm going to update my bios with old parts and then stick new parts in, still no luck I'll try that.

 

3 minutes ago, refinedskillz said:

Try swap in the old ram , if it works, its the ram, if not, swap the gpu. Make sure you have 8/6 pin power plugged into the gpu, make sure it sits in the pcie slot properly, make sure your monitor is turned on, make sure the cable your using to connect it works, etc

Like i said it's nothing obvious from what I can tell, I'll keep jabbing 

[refinedskillz]

Just now, Blu3Jay said:

I have not, I'm going to update my bios with old parts and then stick new parts in, still no luck I'll try that.

 

Like i said it's nothing obvious from what I can tell, I'll keep jabbing 

CMOS is your best bet currently.

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 minute ago, Blu3Jay said:

I have not, I'm going to update my bios with old parts and then stick new parts in, still no luck I'll try that.

 

Like i said it's nothing obvious from what I can tell, I'll keep jabbing 

It shouldn't need a Bios update if it worked prior to new memory and GPU being installed. I would only update the bios as a last resort as it is highly unlikely that will fix the issue. I would first clear CMOS, put the old GPU in, see if that works. DDU the GPU drivers, then put the new GPU back in. 

[Blu3Jay]

So I updated bios, stuck in new gpu and wabam. Still using old ram so not out of the woods yet. 

[Blu3Jay]

1 hour ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

It shouldn't need a Bios update if it worked prior to new memory and GPU being installed. I would only update the bios as a last resort as it is highly unlikely that will fix the issue. I would first clear CMOS, put the old GPU in, see if that works. DDU the GPU drivers, then put the new GPU back in. 

Gpu problem solved, now for ram. Any ideas?

[DailyProcrastinator]

10 minutes ago, Blu3Jay said:

Gpu problem solved, now for ram. Any ideas?

Well does it work with your new RAM?

[Blu3Jay]

Just now, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Well does it work with your new RAM?

Well I got two sticks of the new ram to work with it yes, however I cannot get it to post with 4 new sticks in

[DailyProcrastinator]

3 minutes ago, Blu3Jay said:

Well I got two sticks of the new ram to work with it yes, however I cannot get it to post with 4 new sticks in

So you bought a quad channel kit?

[Blu3Jay]

Just now, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

So you bought a quad channel kit?

Yes, and it seems that a pair doesn't want to work for some reason, see I paired them up and tried two in each of the slots. 2 of them work in both configurations, but the other pair works in none 

[DailyProcrastinator]

3 minutes ago, Blu3Jay said:

Yes, and it seems that a pair doesn't want to work for some reason, see I paired them up and tried two in each of the slots. 2 of them work in both configurations, but the other pair works in none 

Odd, I would add 2 of the new sticks run MemTest86 verify there is no issues, then remove those 2 sticks and ad the next 2 and run the test again. This is where checking Bios may help, if you are on an older version and newer updates correspond to memory stability etc then I would look at a Bios update, assuming your memory passes the MemTest with flying colors. 

[Blu3Jay]

6 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Odd, I would add 2 of the new sticks run MemTest86 verify there is no issues, then remove those 2 sticks and ad the next 2 and run the test again. This is where checking Bios may help, if you are on an older version and newer updates correspond to memory stability etc then I would look at a Bios update, assuming your memory passes the MemTest with flying colors. 

So I tested the two bad sticks individually as well, and no luck. Makes me wonder if I unironicly got sent faulty ram. I'll give mem test a try 

 

[DailyProcrastinator]

6 minutes ago, Blu3Jay said:

So I tested the two bad sticks individually as well, and no luck. Makes me wonder if I unironicly got sent faulty ram. I'll give mem test a try 

Yeah MemTest86 will know if they are faulty.