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I need an air cooler better than my stock for under $100. (3700x)

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1 minute ago, gloop said:

NH-D15, DRP4.

Are they am4 compatible out of box or would I need to order a mounting kit? Also are they compatible with the Asus tuf gaming x570 plus? @gloop

 

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1 minute ago, NotNoah17 said:

I need an air cooler better than my stock for under $100. (3700x)

The  best air coolers are

Noctua NH-U12A

Noctua NH-D15

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

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Are they am4 compatible out of box or would I need to order a mounting kit? Also are they compatible with the Asus tuf gaming x570 plus?

 

The noctua ones definitely come with an AMD mounting system included, for the drp4 I think so but I'm not sure

Main PC [The Rig of Theseus]:

CPU: i5-8600K @ 5.0 GHz | GPU: GTX 1660 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480 GB |  HDD: 2x 6 TB WD Red| Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

Secondary PC [Why did I bother]:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS 650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

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Sony SAL-1870 18-70mm ƒ/3.5-5.6 

Sony SAL-75300 75-300mm ƒ/4.5-5.6

Meike MK-50mm ƒ/1.7

 

PSA: No, I didn't waste all that money on computers, (except the main one) my server cost $40, the intel NUC was my old PC (although then it had 8GB of ram, I gave the bigger stick of ram to a person who really needed it), my laptop is used and the second PC is really cheap.

I like tinkering with computers and have a personal hatred towards phones and everything they represent (I daily drive an iPhone 7, or a 6, depends on which one works that day)

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1 minute ago, mbntr said:

The  best air coolers are

Noctua NH-U12A

Noctua NH-D15

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

Are they am4 compatible out of box or would I need to order a mounting kit? Also are they compatible with the Asus tuf gaming x570 plus? @mbntr

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2 minutes ago, NotNoah17 said:

Are they am4 compatible out of box or would I need to order a mounting kit? Also are they compatible with the Asus tuf gaming x570 plus? @mbntr

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CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS 650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

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Cameras:

Full Frame digital: Sony α7

APS-C digital: Sony α100

Medium Format Film: Kodak Junior SIX-20

35mm Film:

 

Lenses:

Sony SAL-1870 18-70mm ƒ/3.5-5.6 

Sony SAL-75300 75-300mm ƒ/4.5-5.6

Meike MK-50mm ƒ/1.7

 

PSA: No, I didn't waste all that money on computers, (except the main one) my server cost $40, the intel NUC was my old PC (although then it had 8GB of ram, I gave the bigger stick of ram to a person who really needed it), my laptop is used and the second PC is really cheap.

I like tinkering with computers and have a personal hatred towards phones and everything they represent (I daily drive an iPhone 7, or a 6, depends on which one works that day)

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For a 3700X I'd look for an NH-U12S chromax.black (or a Dark Rock 4 would be a solid alternative).

 

You could also get an NH-U14S or NH-U12A for around the same price or very slightly more and those will perform a bit better, but they don't come in black.

Then there's the NH-D15 (or Dark Rock Pro 4), which is about as good as it gets for air cooling.

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5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

For a 3700X I'd look for an NH-U12S chromax.black (or a Dark Rock 4 would be a solid alternative).

 

You could also get an NH-U14S or NH-U12A for around the same price or very slightly more and those will perform a bit better, but they don't come in black.

Then there's the NH-D15 (or Dark Rock Pro 4), which is about as good as it gets for air cooling.

Is the be quiet coolers (specifically the dark rock 4 non pro) am4 out of the box or would I need to order a mounting kit? @Mateyyy

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1 minute ago, NotNoah17 said:

Is the be quiet coolers (specifically the dark rock 4 non pro) am4 out of the box or would I need to order a mounting kit? @Mateyyy

The Dark Rock 4 and Pro 4 both come with AM4 mounting in the box.

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4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

The Dark Rock 4 and Pro 4 both come with AM4 mounting in the box.

Ok thanks just making sure because amazon reviews don’t say anything and I didn’t want to have to wait for a mounting kit because my 3700x gets up to 90+ degrees when I’m playing rainbow six siege (only that). Also would it be compatible with an Asus tuf gaming x570 with Corsair rgb vengeance pro ram in the a2 b2 slots? @Mateyyy

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5 minutes ago, NotNoah17 said:

Ok thanks just making sure because amazon reviews don’t say anything and I didn’t want to have to wait for a mounting kit because my 3700x gets up to 90+ degrees when I’m playing rainbow six siege (only that). Also would it be compatible with an Asus tuf gaming x570 with Corsair rgb vengeance pro ram in the a2 b2 slots? @Mateyyy

90C+ sounds quite high, even for the stock cooler. Are you checking temps with HWiNFO64 or Ryzen Master?

 

It should fit fine. If you run into RAM clearance problems (as in the RAM being too tall), you can raise the fan up to clear the memory sticks so that's a non-issue.

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4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

90C+ sounds quite high, even for the stock cooler. Are you checking temps with HWiNFO64 or Ryzen Master?

 

It should fit fine. If you run into RAM clearance problems (as in the RAM being too tall), you can raise the fan up to clear the memory sticks so that's a non-issue.

Ok so I’m thinking of just going all out with the dark rock pro 4. I check with Ryzen master but I just raised the cpu cooler to max rpm and it lowered to 83 max. Also would I have to take apart my system at any level to mount the cooler? @Mateyyy

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11 minutes ago, NotNoah17 said:

Ok so I’m thinking of just going all out with the dark rock pro 4. I check with Ryzen master but I just raised the cpu cooler to max rpm and it lowered to 83 max. Also would I have to take apart my system at any level to mount the cooler? @Mateyyy

You'll likely be able to mount it without taking your system apart. Just take out the old cooler and mount the new one. Just plugging in the cable wil be a bit of a challenge with the mounted cooler in the case. The Dark Rock Pro 4 is really big.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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With 100$ you can get the best of the best in terms of air cooling. I've used the NH-D15, NH-U12S, Dark Rock 4 and Dark Rock Pro 4 in the past and any one of these will easily handle your CPU. I currently run the NH-D15 on my 3700X and it runs like a charm! :D

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13 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

With 100$ you can get the best of the best in terms of air cooling. I've used the NH-D15, NH-U12S, Dark Rock 4 and Dark Rock Pro 4 in the past and any one of these will easily handle your CPU. I currently run the NH-D15 on my 3700X and it runs like a charm! :D

@Stahlmann98would it be smarter if I just got the dark rock slim so I can ensure no clearance ram issues because I did some research and all results said it’s not compatible at all @Mateyyy. Also is the dark rock slim am4 out of box?

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6 minutes ago, NotNoah17 said:

@Stahlmann98would it be smarter if I just got the dark rock slim so I can ensure no clearance ram issues because I did some research and all results said it’s not compatible at all @Mateyyy. Also is the dark rock slim am4 out of box?

All recent BeQuiet Coolers should have the mounting hardware for all recend AMD/Intel sockets included. Same with Noctua.

 

Edit: Just watch out for height clearance with your case.

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15 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

All recent BeQuiet Coolers should have the mounting hardware for all recend AMD/Intel sockets included. Same with Noctua.

 

Edit: Just watch out for height clearance with your case.

I have the h510 elite and I know the cooler fits in the h510i with a couple mm to spare and I believe they have the exact same dimensions so I think it’ll work. @Stahlmann98 also I’m going with the slim due to ram issues

 

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1 minute ago, NotNoah17 said:

I have the h510 elite and I know the cooler fits in the h510i with a couple mm to spare and I believe they have the exact same dimensions so I think it’ll work. @Stahlmann98 also I’m going with the slim due to ram issues

 

The slim will easily fit and have plenty of cooling for your 3700X. Good choice.

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3 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

The slim will easily fit and have plenty of cooling for your 3700X. Good choice.

Ok thank you. Have a goodnight!

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