RipjawsV vs SniperX for 3500 on B450A-PRO

[ayazam]

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this is my previous topic: to buy or not to buy 3500

tldr, got my 3500 and b450a-pro on the way

now i have 2 choices and 2 choices only for my memory

- G.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 PC24000 16GB (2x8GB) [F4-3000C16D-16GVRB] ~$86

- G.Skill SniperX DDR4 PC28800 16GB (2x8GB) [F4-3600C19D-16GSXKB] ~$96

 

which one would be the better option for my cpu-mobo combo
i will overclock those memory, does the higher speed get a better chance to be stable than the lower speed?
fyi, both are not in the memory support list from my motherboard webs
i do see ripjaws V get qvl on X570 chipsets, but not the sniperX (intel only)

thx~

[Mateyyy]

Between those two, the 3600MHz CL19 kit is better.

[Haro]

how about 3200 cl16 ? they should perform better than both of these kits  and should be priced similarly 

Edited July 1, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[ayazam]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Between those two, the 3600MHz CL19 kit is better.

okay, i might not run it on 3600, im going for the 3200 and a tighter timing

 

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

how about 3200 cl16 ? they should perform better than both of these kits  and should be priced similarly 

if i could find one, i would definitely go for that

but right now, the only gskill memory i could find are these 2
thats why im asking, which one is better

[Haro]

Just now, ayazam said:

thats why im asking, which one is better

the 3600 should be a tad better but if you can get the 3000 kit to 3200 with the same timings, then that would perform better 

[Mateyyy]

6 minutes ago, ayazam said:

okay, i might not run it on 3600, im going for the 3200 and a tighter timing

I reckon you'll benefit more from running the FCLK at 1800MHz (if you run the memory at 3600) rather than 1600MHz FCLK but tighter timings. You could try just shoving some more voltage in that kit and trying to get it to 3600 CL18/17.

[Jurrunio]

I myself isnt so bothered with QVL since kits listed can still fail to work with rated settings, but I would choose Ripjaws because the timings are tighter

 

22 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Between those two, the 3600MHz CL19 kit is better.

What?

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

What?

21 minutes ago, ayazam said:

now i have 2 choices and 2 choices only for my memory

- G.Skill RipjawsV DDR4 PC24000 16GB (2x8GB) [F4-3000C16D-16GVRB] ~$86

- G.Skill SniperX DDR4 PC28800 16GB (2x8GB) [F4-3600C19D-16GSXKB] ~$96

 

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

 

For timings, bigger numbers are worse...

[ayazam]

7 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I reckon you'll benefit more from running the FCLK at 1800MHz (if you run the memory at 3600) rather than 1600MHz FCLK but tighter timings. You could try just shoving some more voltage in that kit and trying to get it to 3600 CL18/17.

which one is better, running 3600, fclk 1800
or run the memory @3200C16?

12 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

the 3600 should be a tad better but if you can get the 3000 kit to 3200 with the same timings, then that would perform better 

heres the thing, whether its the sniperX or the ripjawsV, ill run both @3200C16
and i do know that 3200 version of both sniperX and ripjawsV are included in the msi b450 qvl

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I myself isnt so bothered with QVL since kits listed can still fail to work with rated settings, but I would choose Ripjaws because the timings are tighter

okay then, i wont bother the qvl
but i do intent to oc the 3000 to 3200, or the 3600 to 3200
so... yeah, which one is better

[Mateyyy]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

For timings, bigger numbers are worse...

3000 CL16 results in 10.67 ns of memory access latency, whereas 3600 CL19 results in 10.55 ns.

 

1 minute ago, ayazam said:

which one is better, running 3600, fclk 1800
or run the memory @3200C16?

3200 CL16 would be slightly better for latency, but I still feel like the higher FCLK with the 3600 kit would be more beneficial in most day to day tasks. And as I previously mentioned, you could always try tightening the timings on that kit if you feel like it.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, ayazam said:

and i do know that 3200 version of both sniperX and ripjawsV are included in the msi b450 qvl

dont worry about that 

qvl lists dont matter really 

1 minute ago, ayazam said:

heres the thing, whether its the sniperX or the ripjawsV, ill run both @3200C16

then getting different kits is pointless 

tho the 3000 kit might have better IC's so they mught overclock better ( could be wrong )

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

3000 CL16 results in 10.67 ns of memory access latency, whereas 3600 CL19 results in 10.55 ns.

Your right, I thought they are both 3600

 

5 minutes ago, ayazam said:

 

okay then, i wont bother the qvl
but i do intent to oc the 3000 to 3200, or the 3600 to 3200
so... yeah, which one is better

3600 is just straight up better no matter you run XMP or manually tune it

[ayazam]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

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3200 CL16 would be slightly better for latency, but I still feel like the higher FCLK with the 3600 kit would be more beneficial in most day to day tasks. And as I previously mentioned, you could always try tightening the timings on that kit if you feel like it.

okaaay~ might getting the 3600

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

dont worry about that 

qvl lists dont matter really 

then getting different kits is pointless 

tho the 3000 kit might have better IC's so they mught overclock better ( could be wrong )

is it? hmm better IC for overclocking, or run the 3600

tho my friend got samsung b-die on that ripjawz kits,
he said, this is memory lottery, since most of that ripjawz kit come with skhynix,

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

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3600 is just straight up better no matter you run XMP or manually tune it

kay, might go for the 3600

[Haro]

1 minute ago, ayazam said:

tho my friend got samsung b-die on that ripjawz kits,

with these timing i doubt it is 

either way if your going to just run them at the same spec / latency it wont matter.