Suggestions for Distro needed

[Drama Lama]

To start I‘m not completely new to Linux. I already had Linux Mint installed on a USB stick for a few months but lost it. Now I found an old Samsung 850 256gb SSD and want to install Linux.

things I‘ll be doing: browsing 

maybe a bit document writing 

gaming

 

so Which Distro would you suggest me?

 

i want it to be easy to use and good and easy compatibility,  especially for games 

 

Distros I already thought of:

 

Mint

Ubuntu

Pop Os 

manjaro

 

CPU R5 2600x GPU gtx 1070ti RAM 16 gb 2400mHz

 

I am open to your suggestions 

and thanks in advance 

[Master Disaster]

For gaming anything Debian based is best but note, Nvidia's Linux Driver is pretty terrible, you won't get anywhere near Windows performance out of your 1070ti.

[Apemanonline]

Mint Ubuntu you got it covered and check the great vid on linux gaming with the god that is Anthony.

 

 

[igormp]

4 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Nvidia's Linux Driver is pretty terrible, you won't get anywhere near Windows performance out of your 1070ti.

Well, my 2060S usually performs better on linux than windows. Most benchmarks also show similar results, apart from some bad ports (such as Civ VI), in which the GPU manufacturer doesn't really matter.

[Drama Lama]

6 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

For gaming anything Debian based is best but note, Nvidia's Linux Driver is pretty terrible, you won't get anywhere near Windows performance out of your 1070ti.

Thanks

but which of these distros are Debian based?

 

3 minutes ago, Apemanonline said:

Mint Ubuntu you got it covered and check the great vid on linux gaming with the god that is Anthony.

 

 

Thanks 

already watched it when it came out 

this actually got me motivated to really try gaming on Linux 

[Drama Lama]

3 minutes ago, igormp said:

Well, my 2060S usually performs better on linux than windows. Most benchmarks also show similar results, apart from some bad ports (such as Civ VI), in which the GPU manufacturer doesn't really matter.

Thanks 

[Master Disaster]

3 minutes ago, igormp said:

Well, my 2060S usually performs better on linux than windows. Most benchmarks also show similar results, apart from some bad ports (such as Civ VI), in which the GPU manufacturer doesn't really matter.

Admittedly the last time I used an Nvidia GPU on Linux was back when the 1070 (not the ti) was the current card. It's possible things have improved since then.

[Master Disaster]

1 minute ago, Drama Lama said:

Thanks

but which of these distros are Debian based

Mint, Ubuntu or POP would be the best option. Honestly the only differentiating factor between these 3 is the look & feel so choose the one you like the most.

[Nena Trinity]

Ubuntu Kylin or POP if not SteamOS is still being developed? :I

[Drama Lama]

12 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Mint, Ubuntu or POP would be the best option. Honestly the only differentiating factor between these 3 is the look & feel so choose the one you like the most.

Thanks 

 

What about Manjaro? I don’t know a lot about that but I mean it has to be at least somewhat good if Lenovo gives you the option to have it preinstalled.

 

1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

Ubuntu Kylin or POP if not SteamOS is still being developed? :I

thanks 

[Master Disaster]

2 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

Thanks 

 

What about Manjaro? I don’t know a lot about that but I mean it has to be at least somewhat good if Lenovo gives you the option to have it preinstalled.

Manjaro is Arch based which complicates things, especially for a beginner. Start with something Debian based, its by far the most beginner friendly way and has the best support. Most of the stuff you learn in Debian can be transferred to other distros fairly easily (though not everything).

[Drama Lama]

@Master Disaster @Nena Trinity @igormp @Apemanonline

thanks for your suggestions. I first tried manjaro but deinstalled it after 2 hours and went for Pop Os instead maybe I‘ll switch again 

 

[Master Disaster]

15 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

@Master Disaster @Nena Trinity @igormp @Apemanonline

thanks for your suggestions. I first tried manjaro but deinstalled it after 2 hours and went for Pop Os instead maybe I‘ll switch again 

 

Arch is not great to learn Linux, its very involved. With Debian based distros everything is streamlined and pretty user friendly.

[KaiLikesLinux]

Pop!_OS would be the best. It would be best to support your graphics driver on Linux, and anything Ubuntu based (which is debian based) also has access to a tool made by Canonical (who also makes Ubuntu) to install Nvidia drivers. Anything Ubuntu based would work, Pop!_OS would work best.

[nanopone]

can't go wrong with manjaro. it's simple, comes with everything you need, has plenty of software thanks to the aur, it's got everything. i can't recommend ubuntu or anything based on it, these days, it's just not as good as manjaro. 

[nanopone]

8 hours ago, KaiLikesLinux said:

Pop!_OS would be the best. It would be best to support your graphics driver on Linux, and anything Ubuntu based (which is debian based) also has access to a tool made by Canonical (who also makes Ubuntu) to install Nvidia drivers. Anything Ubuntu based would work, Pop!_OS would work best.

manjaro lets you install graphics drivers in the settings, it's super easy.

(usually it would say "auto install proprietary driver", but i'm using a virtual machine so that doesn't show up)

 

i wouldn't recommend pop!_os as it's ubuntu based. getting obscure software on anything based on debian is a serious hassle and sometimes software outright isn't available. sometimes you end up having a mish mash of software installed with apt, from deb files, from appimage files, from snaps, from flatpaks. it's a nightmare. on manjaro and anything arch based, that's not the case thanks to the aur. ubuntu is kind of obsolete as manjaro is a lot easier and way more powerful.

[nanopone]

10 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Arch is not great to learn Linux, its very involved. With Debian based distros everything is streamlined and pretty user friendly.

manjaro is fantastic to learn linux. arch is not. installing software on debian based distros is unnecessarily complicated as it can come from a variety of places if the program you're looking for isn't available with apt. it can come from a deb, an appimage, a bundle, a snap, a flatpak, it's a mess. with manjaro, it all comes from one place and is easy to access with a gui thanks to pamac.

[nanopone]

14 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Manjaro is Arch based which complicates things, especially for a beginner. Start with something Debian based, its by far the most beginner friendly way and has the best support. Most of the stuff you learn in Debian can be transferred to other distros fairly easily (though not everything).

just because it's based on arch doesn't make it complicated. manjaro is stupid easy.

[KaiLikesLinux]

2 hours ago, rikupone said:

manjaro lets you install graphics drivers in the settings, it's super easy.

(usually it would say "auto install proprietary driver", but i'm using a virtual machine so that doesn't show up)

 

i wouldn't recommend pop!_os as it's ubuntu based. getting obscure software on anything based on debian is a serious hassle and sometimes software outright isn't available. sometimes you end up having a mish mash of software installed with apt, from deb files, from appimage files, from snaps, from flatpaks. it's a nightmare. on manjaro and anything arch based, that's not the case thanks to the aur. ubuntu is kind of obsolete as manjaro is a lot easier and way more powerful.

Pop!_OS is as different to Ubuntu than Ubuntu is to Debian. I have had 0 issues with Nvidia drivers, no issues with obscure hardware (except my graphics driver crashed for some reason, but then again it wasn't available anywhere else until a recent kernel update), and even had a better time finding obscure apps. While Pop!_OS is Debian's grandchild, it isn't a big issue for anything obscure. Also with the nightmare flower that is AppImage, Deb, Snap, Flatpak mix hell, Pop!_OS does a good job avoiding that. They even avoid Snap and Flatpak by building many packages themselves. And Manjaro is a stability nightmare, and can get unusable for those without too much knowledge. Manjaro is good in many ways, but they screw up in many ways as well.

[nanopone]

1 minute ago, KaiLikesLinux said:

Pop!_OS is as different to Ubuntu than Ubuntu is to Debian. I have had 0 issues with Nvidia drivers, no issues with obscure hardware (except my graphics driver crashed for some reason, but then again it wasn't available anywhere else until a recent kernel update), and even had a better time finding obscure apps. While Pop!_OS is Debian's grandchild, it isn't a big issue for anything obscure. Also with the nightmare flower that is AppImage, Deb, Snap, Flatpak mix hell, Pop!_OS does a good job avoiding that. They even avoid Snap and Flatpak by building many packages themselves. And Manjaro is a stability nightmare, and can get unusable for those without too much knowledge. Manjaro is good in many ways, but they screw up in many ways as well.

manjaro is the most stable distribution i've used in 10 years. i've never ever screwed it up, but i've screwed up pop!_os and ubuntu countless times. in my opinion, people should stop using debian based distros for desktop use. they're more suited to server use. the main problem is software: out of date and installing is convoluted.

[KaiLikesLinux]

2 minutes ago, rikupone said:

manjaro is the most stable distribution i've used in 10 years. i've never ever screwed it up, but i've screwed up pop!_os and ubuntu countless times. in my opinion, people should stop using debian based distros for desktop use. they're more suited to server use. the main problem is software: out of date and installing is convoluted.

Most stable? I can barely get past a week without something breaking. I have to try to break Pop!_OS and Ubuntu.

[nanopone]

Just now, KaiLikesLinux said:

Most stable? I can barely get past a week without something breaking. I have to try to break Pop!_OS and Ubuntu.

the amount of times ubuntu one day refused to boot, i can't count.

ubuntu and linux mint breaking have sent me back to windows multiple times over the years. i've never ever seen manjaro break, except for one time when i broke my trackpad drivers but that was easy enough to fix and was entirely my fault. manjaro is incredibly stable because it's built on arch, an also very stable distribution.

[KaiLikesLinux]

9 minutes ago, rikupone said:

the amount of times ubuntu one day refused to boot, i can't count.

ubuntu and linux mint breaking have sent me back to windows multiple times over the years. i've never ever seen manjaro break, except for one time when i broke my trackpad drivers but that was easy enough to fix and was entirely my fault. manjaro is incredibly stable because it's built on arch, an also very stable distribution.

Neither arch or manjaro are stable, they break quickly. at least from my experience.

[nanopone]

1 minute ago, KaiLikesLinux said:

Neither arch or manjaro are stable, they break quickly. at least from my experience.

must be user error, because they're incredibly solid. and the fact that all the software comes from one place helps.

[KaiLikesLinux]

6 minutes ago, rikupone said:

must be user error, because they're incredibly solid. and the fact that all the software comes from one place helps.

No, I install a DE (on arch), a browser, discord, and that is usually all I get to do before one or the other crashes